superchunk said:
Just because one party is being ignorant and intolerant, we as Americans shouldn't throw our values out the window and stoop to their level. We should lead by example and continue to do what is right. |
Sounds great, only I heard that story alot...
superchunk said:
No, the % of muslims fitting in with these extreamist groups is no where near a lot of the total Muslim population. The Imam or leader of this new mosque is known to be against these extreamists teachings, so if anything that's the brand of Islam we want to nurture, not attack. The mosque is not replacing the towers. That's just stupid. Its relatively near the site not on it or even next door and its not going to be a skyscraper. Talk about blowing things out of proportion. Also, its not that the peaceful majority is putting up with the minority, its that the minority lives in areas where the powers in control agree with them. THerefore there is no possibility of speaking out and fixing the situation. Otherwise they'd be killed. Living conditions in these nations is completely opposite of the freedoms we enjoy in the US. The majority cannot come out and tell the ruler and their religious institution they are wrong. |
So how does this fix the problem?
| mhsillen said: It's nice to be young an tolerant when you don't have to worry about consequence When appearance is more important than reality |
I live in NYC. They can build whatever they like near ground zero as far as I'm concern.
If you want reality news, better check elsewhere than CNN or FOX etc. I'll admit, sometimes they do show some important facts. But, most of the time the media plants an idea in your head, and that idea can grow like a virus.
I'm just saying, I don't believe everything the media tells us. And this, this is not news to me.. just media creating drama.
Scoobes said:
Personally I think you have a weird idea of muslims in the world. Tell me, what percentage of muslims are terrorists? And then how you came to that figure? And if it came from a news source how did they work that out? It's not like you can go around asking people is it? It's not to do with worrying about being tolerant. You seem to believe everything you read and are basing your views on hype and scandal that quite simply blows the picture completely out of the water. A good proportion of my friends are muslim, they do not hide in mosques pretending to be peaceful.In fact they're the most peaceful people I know (even though we have disagreements about a range of issues). And I did cover the sybolism issue... it shouldn't be an issue. It's not replacing the twin towers, it's 2 blocks away. You have a constituition for a reason, but you think "feelings" should dictate when you apply it? |
Thats like saying all my friends have a PS3 to prove no one is buying an xbox
| mhsillen said: Do you know what would happen to my son who is gay,in alot of those countries? This is fact not fiction It is firmly help fundamental beliefs they are born with and they bring them to this country also |
Certain areas of America are the same, except its Christian "values".
And like I said before, why are you comparing America to these countries? The whole point is that America isn't like that, and the building of this Mosque is proof of that. Now there may be plenty wrong with the States, but credit where credit is due.
good call Obama
I don't agree with president obama on alot of things,but I have to agree with him on this. They have a right to build the mosque on private property, and worship were they see fit. The people that are against this,I ask what are you really afraid of? 99.99% of muslims are good hard working people. It's always the actions of a few,that make it hard for everybody else.
| mhsillen said: Do you know what would happen to my son who is gay,in alot of those countries? This is fact not fiction It is firmly help fundamental beliefs they are born with and they bring them to this country also |
LOL in a lot of those countries? What happens to him here? I know its not a bowl full of cherries. Let's talk marriage.
Face it, there are ignorant people all over this world that prescribe to every faith. Difference is you only perceive one of these groups as an enemy (odd considering the Chrstian right stance on your son).
As for you number of 'muslim' terrorists, you said it was a lot of the total, yet you only figure its .5%? That's contradictory and makes no sense. I was assuming you meant more like greater than 1/2 of muslims were terrorist leaning. But, a 0.5% of Christianity could easily be fitted with that same definition of extreamism. Just that they live in powerful nations and don't need to blow themselves up and so on to get attention. They can far easier attack abortion clinics, doctors, gays, etc, etc.
As for being raised, not born, with these extreamist beleifs and bringing them to this country, that is good. Because this country will have mosques with normal teachers to begin to change their beleifs. THat is why its important to allow mosques like this one to be built.
I think it is nice to be tolerant but in this world there are a lot more people than you think who hate america. They would like to destroy it and they come into this country everyday.
You do not realize how much they hate us and our way of life.
And there are people due to religion who are pure evil
Scoobes said:
Certain areas of America are the same, except its Christian "values". And like I said before, why are you comparing America to these countries? The whole point is that America isn't like that, and the building of this Mosque is proof of that. Now there may be plenty wrong with the States, but credit where credit is due. |
your right
the only thing is true Christian values according to the bible do not hate anybody or do harm to them
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