Orange Box is one SKU, you can't buy them seperately on consoles. On the PC, where you can buy them seperately, they are not full priced games. The Orange Box together is a package that contains great single player and multiplayer experiences. Portal has a lot of elements that would be fun in multiplayer, too, heh.

It's not just Nintendo I'm commenting on. I think Ratchet would be a lot better with multiplayer, too, along with many other games.

Yeah, I agree.  I think when you see Halo 3's (more for it's plethera of online features, The Orange Box's, and even CoD4's packages, you see what a great deal videogames can be.  UT3 and Halo 3 are both expanding what you can do with console FPS games.  UT3 is including mods, Halo 3 has a built-in map editor (not as good as mods ,  but certainly a ton of options that can completely change the gameplay), and Orange Box isn't really fair.

The bigger problem was likely Metroid's marketing as others have said, but I think it would have been easier to market if some sort of solid multiplayer was included.

But like I've said, this is certainly just my opinion and based on my game renting tendacies lately.  I have little motivation to buy most single player games now. 

Oh, come on. MoH:Heroes 2 is a port of a PSP game that has the same functionality of online FPS games literally a decade ago, except missing key features like the ability to actually communicate with other players whether via voice chat or even just typing into the console. The maps are few and bland, the graphics are pretty pathetic, and the weapons are the same WW II stuff that's been in dozens of games over the last several years.

It doesn't have to be CoD4 or Halo levels of fantastic to be referred to as a "great FPS multi-player experience" but honestly the game is downright mediocre. It is selling bad because people have played that game already, in about 24 different forms prior to this one, and this offers nothing new to the genre at all,     except for the fact that it's the first internet multiplayer FPS on the wii whatsoever.

not really look at hunters it didnt sell alot even with online

They tried it in Metroid Prime 2 & it just didn't work.

Me & my friend played around with that mode for a little while but it had no lasting value. We had fun morph ball fights. (please guys no "The balls are inert" Piccolo memes)

Metroid was always a shooter in the sense that Samus shoot beams from her arm cannon but it's not really about mindless shooting. The enemies to be shot are just nuisances not obstacles and the focus of the gameplay is about trekking, exploring, & mystery solving. The shooting aspect just becomes a means to an end.

I hoped that they was gonna add and improve upon it from MP2 thinking they would include the feature but when it was not included I said it's probably for the best.

1st person perspective has changed people's idea of what the Metroid series is. All Metroid Prime was is Metroid regular in 1st person true-3D format. It feels much like old Metroid except in 3D atmosphere. The annoying confusion when you get lost, the backtracking, trying to figure out how to unlock this or that. The hidden secrets. Nasty bosses. All that.

And because Master Chief resembles Samus Aran (I bet money MC's creators were inspired by Samus design) people have begun to compare it to Halo & other 1st person shooters. But Metroid was never quite a real first person shooter or a shooter in general. It's an exploratory adventure game in 1st person perspective in 3D just like the old Metroids were the same type of game in 3rd person camera perspective in 2D.

Now Contra was a shooter. A platform shooter. That game was about just about hopping from cliff to cliff shooting everything in sight trying not to die. Translating this difficult game or even its concept to 3D in FPS form would be something to watch. But then again should everything be translated? That's the question you have to ask.

John Lucas 

The comparison between Metroid and Contra is an excellent one.  Both were traditionally side-scrolling and both had shooter elements. 

For Contra, that was the focus of the game.  You don't need to play for more than 5 minutes to understand how much the core gameplay revolves around that aspect.  For Metroid, the focus is very different.  You'll spend far more time navigating around caverns, solving puzzles, and exploring in general than shooting.  Very different games.

Great comparison.

I don't hear anyone complain about FFXIII not having a multiplayer mode? Why?

Because JRPGs are seldom enjoyable in groups. Ever tried to play a JRPG in front of friends? They fall asleep. Cutscenes dropped between half hour level grinds of random monster encounters is about as entertaining as watching grass grow. 

We even had trouble with Tales of Symphonia, despite the fact that it had four player combat. During the puzzle sections, one player is pushing blocks around while the other three are bored. It just doesn't work in an RPG setting unless all four players have something to do at all times. 

Metroid Hunters had some damn good multiplayer, so long as you played with friends and not with random people who hacked. Comparing it to a JRPG just doesn't work.