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JerzeeBalla on 27 July 2010
leatherhat said:

They all are, with the possible exception of SC2. The fact that they are considered the best of the year show how far standards have fallen. Not saying that any of them are bad games, but they certaintly aren't up to GOTY snuff.


Uh, what makes these games so much worse than past GOTY nominees or winners? Not attacking you or KylieDog or anyone else who agrees its been a weak year.....But I dont think these are weak games at all. Is it because they are all sequels? What's the last new IP that was the consensus GOTY? Bioshock I think? Before that it was.....I dunno.



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leatherhat on 27 July 2010
JerzeeBalla said:
leatherhat said:

They all are, with the possible exception of SC2. The fact that they are considered the best of the year show how far standards have fallen. Not saying that any of them are bad games, but they certaintly aren't up to GOTY snuff.


Uh, what makes these games so much worse than past GOTY nominees or winners? Not attacking you or KylieDog or anyone else who agrees its been a weak year.....But I dont think these are weak games at all. Is it because they are all sequels? What's the last new IP that was the consensus GOTY? Bioshock I think? Before that it was.....I dunno.

Well first off GOTY almost always goes to the most overhyped game of the year. Which is why games like Halo etc. are all contendors. Its not about being a sequel, but in the case of these games its about being too similar to their predecessor or just flat out not as good (ME2). Its hard to keep things fresh. GoW is getting stale and theirs only been 4. Mario is way old. I don't care if they make sequels but give me a reason to play them if I already have other games in the series. But yeah, all these games are good. But none of them are particularly mind blowing or praise worthy.



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DarkisWR on 27 July 2010
leatherhat said:
JerzeeBalla said:
leatherhat said:

They all are, with the possible exception of SC2. The fact that they are considered the best of the year show how far standards have fallen. Not saying that any of them are bad games, but they certaintly aren't up to GOTY snuff.


Uh, what makes these games so much worse than past GOTY nominees or winners? Not attacking you or KylieDog or anyone else who agrees its been a weak year.....But I dont think these are weak games at all. Is it because they are all sequels? What's the last new IP that was the consensus GOTY? Bioshock I think? Before that it was.....I dunno.

Well first off GOTY almost always goes to the most overhyped game of the year. Which is why games like Halo etc. are all contendors. Its not about being a sequel, but in the case of these games its about being too similar to their predecessor or just flat out not as good (ME2). Its hard to keep things fresh. GoW is getting stale and theirs only been 4. Mario is way old. I don't care if they make sequels but give me a reason to play them if I already have other games in the series. But yeah, all these games are good. But none of them are particularly mind blowing or praise worthy.

So you say it goes to most over-hyped...do you not see the sales for it? Or reviews....While you might dislike...clearly the many out number your very shallow opinion.

I'd really like to hear you banter of trash you cleary have against ME2...* and plz don't say cuz I can't have enough inventory bs*

How can you say all those games are good and then say give me a reason to play them...when clearly all of them have made changes in many a way.

 

Oh and on seqls...you might not know but they ''carry on'' from the one before it.



Khuutra on 27 July 2010

@leatherhat:

"standards have fallen" would imply that there is an objective standard of quality which can be adhered to but, for this year, is not. Now, do you mean to say this, or is it more that your standard of quality is not being adhered to?



selnor on 27 July 2010

ROFL. Reach not only eats Killzone in terms of features and content, but sheer playable scale to. 

I predict Reach will be GOTY on more than 80% of the review sites. 

Killzone 3 better than Reach. Oh wait England won the world cup.



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selnor on 27 July 2010
KylieDog said:

To be honest if any of those games mentioned gets GOTY it speaks volumes for how bad a year its been.  Although I have not played Alan Wake to be fair, so exclude that from the list.


Are you freakin kidding me?

I think it's been the best year so far for games in general.

I'd take 

GOW3, Heavy Rain, Mass Effect 2, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Conviction, Hydro Thunder Hurricane, Fable 3, Halo Reach, Gran Turismo 5, Dantes Inferno ( Yes I loved it ), Crysis 2 

Over any other year so far. 



Hynad on 27 July 2010
selnor said:

Killzone 3 better than Reach. Oh wait England won the world cup.

Hum... did you happen to play both games? 

Nope.

So how do you know already which one will be the most feature packed and/or overall better than the other?

You don't.  

You're sold on anything 360.  Impartiality and objectivity is sadly not one of your traits.

 

For all we know, we can assume Reach will sell a lot better than Killzone 3.  Mostly due to the nature of the 360's demographic compared to the PS3's.  But to claim at this point that one game is going to be better than the other from the gameplay and features point of view is utterly unreasonable.  Not that it's not expected, coming from you Selnor. ¬_¬



selnor on 27 July 2010
Hynad said:
selnor said:

Killzone 3 better than Reach. Oh wait England won the world cup.

Hum... did you happen to play both games? 

Nope.

So how do you know already which one will be the most feature packed and/or overall better than the other?

You don't.  

You're sold on anything 360.  Impartiality and objectivity is sadly not one of your traits.

 

For all we know, we can assume Reach will sell a lot better than Killzone 3.  Mostly due to the nature of the 360's demographic compared to the PS3's.  But to claim at this point that one game is going to be better than the other from the gameplay and features point of view is utterly unreasonable.  Not that it's not expected, coming from you Selnor. ¬_¬

Ok so your saying there is a possibility for KZ3 to be more content packed and more featured than reach? It has it's work cut out just matching the 3 year old Halo 3. If KZ3 is even close to Reach's content and features I'll never post here again. 

It's just not gonna happen. Youve seen the Forge video, Youve seen the 1000 upgrade abilities on your character, youve read about the insane amount of multiplayer maps out of the retail box, Firefight for 5 players with Matchmaking, 60 enemies onscreen I dont need to go on. KZ3 will not get anywhere near that. Quote me do what you like. This is how it will be.

It's Bungie.



Acevil on 27 July 2010
selnor said:
KylieDog said:

To be honest if any of those games mentioned gets GOTY it speaks volumes for how bad a year its been.  Although I have not played Alan Wake to be fair, so exclude that from the list.


Are you freakin kidding me?

I think it's been the best year so far for games in general.

I'd take 

GOW3, Heavy Rain, Mass Effect 2, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Conviction, Hydro Thunder Hurricane, Fable 3, Halo Reach, Gran Turismo 5, Dantes Inferno ( Yes I loved it ), Crysis 2 

Over any other year so far. 


I never really seen Kylie post anything too positive (Maybe about RE5?), so you might as well ignored it. Also you should really play some wii gems this year, I know you are 360 loyal, but seriously that list is somewhat horrid for lack of wii gems!  



 

selnor on 27 July 2010
Acevil said:
selnor said:
KylieDog said:

To be honest if any of those games mentioned gets GOTY it speaks volumes for how bad a year its been.  Although I have not played Alan Wake to be fair, so exclude that from the list.


Are you freakin kidding me?

I think it's been the best year so far for games in general.

I'd take 

GOW3, Heavy Rain, Mass Effect 2, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Conviction, Hydro Thunder Hurricane, Fable 3, Halo Reach, Gran Turismo 5, Dantes Inferno ( Yes I loved it ), Crysis 2 

Over any other year so far. 


I never really seen Kylie post anything too positive (Maybe about RE5?), so you might have well ignored it. Also you should really play some wii gems this year, I know you are 360 loyal, but seriously that list is somewhat horrid for lack of wii gems!  

Please feel free to add the gems to my list. :)

I know the Wii has some awesome games out this year to. I just dont really follow them sorry. I did it off the top of my head.

:)