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Solid_Snake4RD on 07 July 2010
Cheebee said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Cheebee said:

I think the majority of people, everywhere, would prefer cheaper TV's over expensive ones, and goggles-free 3D instead of forced goggles... It's a no-brainer.


but would they want big screen movies,sports and full games on a small screen

 

no they won't

Of course you know this for a fact.

Anyway, thanks for bringing stuff into the mix that I never even remotely mentioned in the first place. XD

not for a fact but just discusiing

 

but you would like to dump a 40' screen and watch movies,,,,play games on small screen

good for you

 

no sports though and no big screen.i will take them



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greenmedic88 on 08 July 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Cheebee said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Cheebee said:

I think the majority of people, everywhere, would prefer cheaper TV's over expensive ones, and goggles-free 3D instead of forced goggles... It's a no-brainer.


but would they want big screen movies,sports and full games on a small screen

 

no they won't

Of course you know this for a fact.

Anyway, thanks for bringing stuff into the mix that I never even remotely mentioned in the first place. XD

not for a fact but just discusiing

 

but you would like to dump a 40' screen and watch movies,,,,play games on small screen

good for you

 

no sports though and no big screen.i will take them

I think the argument here has nothing to do with whether someone claims to prefer watching 3D content on a little hand held screen or a 40" or larger display, but whether they want to pump NIntendo's current take on 3D as the solution "everyone" will want. 

Frankly, I have to say that anyone who claims they'd dump the big screen viewing experience for a pocket sized one is being disingenous at best.

Personally, I don't even like watching 2D movies on my PSP or iPhone unless that happens to be the ONLY way I can watch under current circumstances.



LordTheNightKnight on 08 July 2010
greenmedic88 said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Cheebee said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Cheebee said:

I think the majority of people, everywhere, would prefer cheaper TV's over expensive ones, and goggles-free 3D instead of forced goggles... It's a no-brainer.


but would they want big screen movies,sports and full games on a small screen

 

no they won't

Of course you know this for a fact.

Anyway, thanks for bringing stuff into the mix that I never even remotely mentioned in the first place. XD

not for a fact but just discusiing

 

but you would like to dump a 40' screen and watch movies,,,,play games on small screen

good for you

 

no sports though and no big screen.i will take them

I think the argument here has nothing to do with whether someone claims to prefer watching 3D content on a little hand held screen or a 40" or larger display, but whether they want to pump NIntendo's current take on 3D as the solution "everyone" will want. 

Frankly, I have to say that anyone who claims they'd dump the big screen viewing experience for a pocket sized one is being disingenous at best.

Personally, I don't even like watching 2D movies on my PSP or iPhone unless that happens to be the ONLY way I can watch under current circumstances.

Frankly, you ignoring cost as a factor against size is the real disingenous thing. Cost is too high, even if the screen is larger. And going "it will go down" is not an argument, since Nintendo is offering it with their new system, at what is basically free with that system.



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greenmedic88 on 08 July 2010

The only additional cost associated with 3D HDTVs will be additional sets of glasses and sooner than most realize.

I can already find 240hz 3D ready 42" LED backlit HDTVs for just under $2,000. That's hardly a premium price for a name brand TV with LED backlighting.

Based on what you're saying, it seems you would have people believe that most homes interested in leading edge technologies like 3D either don't have at least one HDTV or have plans to buy one in the near future.

Prices are going down, it absolutely is a factor, and a portable solution is no substitute for the typical household.

It's a pointless argument to say that those who can't afford big screen TVs can and will prefer to just watch movies on a portable DVD player instead. Or a 3DS game system for that matter.



z101 on 08 July 2010

No one likes to wear glasses to watch TV or play games at home.

It's ok for an event like going to a cinema with a very big screen. But the 3D effect on expensive small TVs (and even on big TVs) is truly bad! And you have to wear glasses for that ...

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wick on 08 July 2010
Tanstalas said:
wick said:

Yes the 3DS is a threat to 3D TV's but not as a direct competitor.

Imagine this situation.

Next christmas, the prices of 3D TV's are fairly cheap. Your average family might be thinking of buying one with more content and cheaper prices. Now what is the main downfall of 3D? The glasses.

I don't care what anyone says, the glasses ARE a major sticking point for this new, sudden push for old tech. I will often be doing something else while watching tv and I don't think I'll ever want to wear those glasses while on my laptop or doing dishes or playing poker with the football on in the background.........

See the problem?

The glasses.

Now back to our family who are thinking about getting a 3D TV......

As Mr and Mrs Average are eating christmas dinner and discussing wheather or not to pick up a 3D TV in the January sales, little Johnny and his friends are making quite a bit of noise playing with one of his new presents. They wander over and he shows them what all the noise is about. 3D! No Glasses.

Now going on the fact that most people out there aren't too up to date with technology, they will surely assume that this amazing little device will lead to a similar display on a TV very soon.

Bang! There goes another sale of a 3D with those stupid glasses.

Two things don't have to perform the same function to be competitors.

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greenmedic88 on 08 July 2010

The prices on 3D HDTVs have dropped a lot faster than I thought they would.

I just got an ad from Buy.com for a 3D ready Samsung 46" plasma for $1,263.99

Samsung LN46C750 46" Widescreen 1080p

    Ratio, 2ms Response Time
    FREE BUDGET SHIPPING
    Buy.com price: $1,263.99* (see final checkout for price, expires 7/10/10)

It probably won't be more than a year before shutter glasses become the most expensive part of home 3D on a big screen.

It's one of those things every viewer will be very aware that they're wearing, but by the same token, 3D isn't something that viewers will be using even half the time they're watching just about anything on their HDTV. Not until they start recording sports programming and TV shows in 3D anyway.

I'm willing to bet that a sizable percentage of future 3D capable HDTV owners may not even use the feature often, if at all. It won't add much to the price of an HDTV in the very near future.

 




Solid_Snake4RD on 08 July 2010
greenmedic88 said:

I think the argument here has nothing to do with whether someone claims to prefer watching 3D content on a little hand held screen or a 40" or larger display, but whether they want to pump NIntendo's current take on 3D as the solution "everyone" will want. 

no these people are arguing as if everyone will want to watch movies on a small screen just to be glassesfree which is not gonna happen

Frankly, I have to say that anyone who claims they'd dump the big screen viewing experience for a pocket sized one is being disingenous at best.

thats what they are saying.

lordofthenight was talking as if people will buy 4-5 3DS per family instead of watching movies on big screen

Personally, I don't even like watching 2D movies on my PSP or iPhone unless that happens to be the ONLY way I can watch under current circumstances.

same for it.just can't concentrate


Solid_Snake4RD on 08 July 2010
z101 said:

No one likes to wear glasses to watch TV or play games at home.

It's ok for an event like going to a cinema with a very big screen. But the 3D effect on expensive small TVs (and even on big TVs) is truly bad! And you have to wear glasses for that ...

Sonys next big flop after the PSP-Go.

its not SONY's big flop but TV industry;s big flop it it happened



Solid_Snake4RD on 08 July 2010
greenmedic88 said:

The prices on 3D HDTVs have dropped a lot faster than I thought they would.

I just got an ad from Buy.com for a 3D ready Samsung 46" plasma for $1,263.99

Samsung LN46C750 46" Widescreen 1080p

    Ratio, 2ms Response Time
    FREE BUDGET SHIPPING
    Buy.com price: $1,263.99* (see final checkout for price, expires 7/10/10)

It probably won't be more than a year before shutter glasses become the most expensive part of home 3D on a big screen.

It's one of those things every viewer will be very aware that they're wearing, but by the same token, 3D isn't something that viewers will be using even half the time they're watching just about anything on their HDTV. Not until they start recording sports programming and TV shows in 3D anyway.

I'm willing to bet that a sizable percentage of future 3D capable HDTV owners may not even use the feature often, if at all. It won't add much to the price of an HDTV in the very near future.

 

man thats cheap