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Solid_Snake4RD on 03 July 2010
selnor said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
thismeintiel said:
Hyruken said:
thismeintiel said:

@ Hyruken

I gave up reading your post when you said that MS had basically done nothing when and since the PS3 Slim launch.  You do realise that the 360 Elite got a $100 price-cut right along the PS3, right?  The Pro also got a $50 price-cut to clear out stock.  So, you had a $199 Arcade, a $249 Pro, and a $299 Elite.  And yet, it wasn't able to beat out a system who's lowest entry price was $299.  So, I'll ask you the same thing I asked in the previous paragraph.  What do you think is going to happen when the PS3 hits $199?  Heck, even $249?


And look who it is....

Firstly your 100% right about the cuts. So what were the price of the elites before the massive $50 drop? Also in your analysis of the figures you forgot to mention a pretty big price change, the Arcade was given a £30 ($45) INCREASE. Why did you forget to mention that bit i wonder.....

As for the rest of what you said nostradamus when will we be seeing this $100 price cut you claim? Or to put that into some numbers for you that is 33% off of the current price. Seeing as Sony themselves only a few weeks ago said they have finally made profit on each PS3 do you really think they would give up 1/3 of the money they get from each PS3?

Do anyone else agree with him that there will be a $199 ps3 anytime soon?

Until that happens we will never know so i can't say. I imagine it would go on to do very well just like it has since it's last price cut. But it won't happen anytime soon, in that time the 360 will be increasing it's lead over the PS3. I think it is that point you seemed to have missed. maybe you should have read the rest of it rather then once more going on one of your little crusades :)

Yes, it is I...

Anyway, the Elite was dropped $100 dollars before the launch of the PS3 Slim.  From $399 to $299.  And yes, the Arcade was increased in the UK, but in America (it's strongest region) there was no such increase.  It remained $199.

I expect the PS3 $199 price no earlier than Holiday Season '11, but more likely in Holiday Season '12.  However, another big cut to $249 will most likely be announced at next year's E3.  You see, Sony still has the price card to play.  But, if MS Slim and Kinect fail to bring about long-term sales bumps (which I don't believe they will outside of America), then they have no more cards to play.  Not to mention what GT5 is going to do to sales in EMEAA.

And I will continue to crusade for as long as I continue to breathe. 



Sony will wait to the last possible minute to make that price drop. mainly to see what MS price drop will be.

Sony dont have that luxury. Sony will have to move first. They have no choice. 3rd place runners dont get choices.

actually they do this gen

if 360 SLIM impact is still there in September the way it is now which will be hard to continue and if KINECT has an impact.

ONly then will SONY cut the price

even MOVE will have a price cut if KInnect has a low price



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Mr Puggsly on 03 July 2010
M.U.G.E.N said:

ps3 doomed? again? :S man that sounds familiar

I still say its doomed. I mean just bearing in mind its a horrible financial failure.



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Mr Puggsly on 03 July 2010
HKN said:

Once the PS3 hits $199 it will fly past the 360.

But by the time the PS3 is $199, the 360 will also be $199 for the Elite and possilby $99 for the Arcade. We are not even sure what impact Kinect will have yet. Lets not forget the Wii is likely to see another price cut by then.

Anyhow, the PS3 has huge competition. Anything Sony does, MS will counteract somehow.



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Solid_Snake4RD on 03 July 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
HKN said:

Once the PS3 hits $199 it will fly past the 360.

But by the time the PS3 is $199, the 360 will also be $199 for the Elite and possilby $99 for the Arcade.

price cuts after a certain price don't have that much impact.360 sold so low after being $200 so you know that the impact will be less

PS3 at @199 will be like Wii,PS2 numbers coming in

We are not even sure what impact Kinect will have yet.

WE ARE not dure what MOVE impact will be either

Lets not forget the Wii is likely to see another price cut by then.

Wii is out of the question here

Anyhow, the PS3 has huge competition. Anything Sony does, MS will counteract somehow.

It hasn't last year.





WarmachineX on 03 July 2010

360 is going to beast this holiday season...

Hail to the king, baby! xD





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Slimebeast on 03 July 2010

The thread title is ridiculous.

Sony is estimating to ship 15 million PS3's in this Fiscal year (I think). That alone takes it to the same level as the X360 in lifetime sales.

And I agree with HKN & SolidSnake4 that a $199 PS3 will sell like hotcakes.

I believe 70million X360s and 85 million PS3s sold when all is said and done.



Mr Puggsly on 03 July 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Mr Puggsly said:
HKN said:

Once the PS3 hits $199 it will fly past the 360.

But by the time the PS3 is $199, the 360 will also be $199 for the Elite and possilby $99 for the Arcade.

price cuts after a certain price don't have that much impact.360 sold so low after being $200 so you know that the impact will be less

PS3 at @199 will be like Wii,PS2 numbers coming in

We are not even sure what impact Kinect will have yet.

WE ARE not dure what MOVE impact will be either

Lets not forget the Wii is likely to see another price cut by then.

Wii is out of the question here

Anyhow, the PS3 has huge competition. Anything Sony does, MS will counteract somehow.

It hasn't last year.

 

price cuts after a certain price don't have that much impact.360 sold so low after being $200 so you know that the impact will be less

The problem is you're looking at the Xbox 360 Arcade. But the masses clearly want the Elite and its still $300. A price cut on the Elite will definitely boost sales. And a $99 Arcade wouldn't hurt sales either.

WE ARE not dure what MOVE impact will be either

Kinect will have a much bigger impact than the Move. The Move is far too similar to the Wiimote.

Wii is out of the question here

Well the Wii has very similar motion controls as the PS3. Perhaps some competition there?

It hasn't last year.

You living in the past or something? MS has big things coming now.



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Solid_Snake4RD on 03 July 2010
WarmachineX said:

360 is going to beast this holiday season...

Hail to the king, baby! xD


360 will be a beast but its not the KING



FMF on 03 July 2010

Compared to last gen, let's just be glad everyone did better than the GameCube.

 

 

...poor GameCube. :(



Solid_Snake4RD on 03 July 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Mr Puggsly said:
HKN said:

Once the PS3 hits $199 it will fly past the 360.

But by the time the PS3 is $199, the 360 will also be $199 for the Elite and possilby $99 for the Arcade.

price cuts after a certain price don't have that much impact.360 sold so low after being $200 so you know that the impact will be less

PS3 at @199 will be like Wii,PS2 numbers coming in

We are not even sure what impact Kinect will have yet.

WE ARE not dure what MOVE impact will be either

Lets not forget the Wii is likely to see another price cut by then.

Wii is out of the question here

Anyhow, the PS3 has huge competition. Anything Sony does, MS will counteract somehow.

It hasn't last year.

 

The problem is you're looking at the Xbox 360 Arcade. But the masses clearly want the Elite and its still $300. A price cut on the Elite will definitely boost sales. And a $99 Arcade wouldn't hurt sales either.

THE MASSES clearly want Elite..........................Lmao

the hardcores want elite not the people who bought 360 because it was cheaper.

the price cut of Elite will help but not for the masses and only hardcores who care about elite

the $99 Arcade won't hurt but it would do a big impact either and the way MS is going,tey won't cut Arcade's price to $99

 

Kinect will have a much bigger impact than the Move. The Move is far too similar to the Wiimote.

Kinect will also have a BIGGER price

and this is just your prediction.nobody has any idea how they both will sell.All the NATAL/KINECT hype died down after the dissapointing MS E3 conference

Well the Wii has very similar motion controls as the PS3. Perhaps some competition there?

you weren't talking about the Wii motion control and its price

and the Wii motion control has already made its impact.and you are fogetting that PS3 has Motion control in HD

You living in the past or something? MS has big things coming now.

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so you just discard everything that happened in the past?

and you were the one who said MS always counters SONY which its didn't do last year