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dahuman on 16 July 2010
BBH said:
dahuman said:

It seems a lot of you are arguing about tech or random stuff about glasses and whatnot, when the basic logic is simple:

3D with glasses added 4 to 5 years into the console's life cycle- gimmick, niche.

3D without glasses that can be adjusted or even turned off by design- feature.

see how I just face pwned Sony?

I have no problem with my PS3 at all, but will I use 3D with it? fuck no.

I have no problem with the 3DS at all, but will I use 3D with it? dood it's a fucking feature built into the hardware by default lawl, of course I will!

So bashing is fine.

And if you like the idea of 3D gaming from the 3DS, and realise that a better experience could be had on your PS3?

- Anyway, bottom line is that people in here are talking like the 3DS will have a big impact on 3DTV - It won't.


of course it won't, they are totally different markets, but I'm sure as hell not getting a 3DTV anytime soon if ever, not until the tech is able to give you 3D at multiple angles without glasses. cha-chin vs value vs annoyance is the major issue with that stuff. The better experience is on PC if I want it btw, don't kid yourself. =P



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irstupid on 16 July 2010
BBH said:
dahuman said:

It seems a lot of you are arguing about tech or random stuff about glasses and whatnot, when the basic logic is simple:

3D with glasses added 4 to 5 years into the console's life cycle- gimmick, niche.

3D without glasses that can be adjusted or even turned off by design- feature.

see how I just face pwned Sony?

I have no problem with my PS3 at all, but will I use 3D with it? fuck no.

I have no problem with the 3DS at all, but will I use 3D with it? dood it's a fucking feature built into the hardware by default lawl, of course I will!

So bashing is fine.

And if you like the idea of 3D gaming from the 3DS, and realise that a better experience could be had on your PS3?

- Anyway, bottom line is that people in here are talking like the 3DS will have a big impact on 3DTV - It won't.

no we are just thinking logically.

our main basis is the fact that most all people RECENTLY upgraded to HDTV.  they have been around for a long time, even back on thinking of the huge dimension tv's.  then flat panals slowly started coming out, then the need to upgrade or buy receiver thiung and so on.  It took quite some time and people waited and waited until they FINALLY upgraded.


Now they have just upgraded and you expect them to buy another TV soon.  Hell I bet the average person won't even THINK of buying a new TV for 10 years. 



BBH on 16 July 2010

But there is no glassless 3D competitor at the minute.

There is no choice.



dahuman on 16 July 2010
BBH said:

But there is no glassless 3D competitor at the minute.

There is no choice.


yes there is, don't buy it lol.



Arius Dion on 16 July 2010

I think this whole 3D push by Sony is going to hurt them, big time.



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BBH on 16 July 2010
irstupid said:
BBH said:
dahuman said:

It seems a lot of you are arguing about tech or random stuff about glasses and whatnot, when the basic logic is simple:

3D with glasses added 4 to 5 years into the console's life cycle- gimmick, niche.

3D without glasses that can be adjusted or even turned off by design- feature.

see how I just face pwned Sony?

I have no problem with my PS3 at all, but will I use 3D with it? fuck no.

I have no problem with the 3DS at all, but will I use 3D with it? dood it's a fucking feature built into the hardware by default lawl, of course I will!

So bashing is fine.

And if you like the idea of 3D gaming from the 3DS, and realise that a better experience could be had on your PS3?

- Anyway, bottom line is that people in here are talking like the 3DS will have a big impact on 3DTV - It won't.

no we are just thinking logically.

our main basis is the fact that most all people RECENTLY upgraded to HDTV.  they have been around for a long time, even back on thinking of the huge dimension tv's.  then flat panals slowly started coming out, then the need to upgrade or buy receiver thiung and so on.  It took quite some time and people waited and waited until they FINALLY upgraded.


Now they have just upgraded and you expect them to buy another TV soon.  Hell I bet the average person won't even THINK of buying a new TV for 10 years. 

3D is bigger than HD - Period. Kids even care about 3D, wheras they didn't with HD (just a little example).

Basically, it's not only me who thinks that 3D is going to be huge - it's all the major analysts and multinational companies. 

They all predict a 3D boom in 2012 - and then big sales in the years following.



Alby_da_Wolf on 16 July 2010
irstupid said:
snfr said:

I just thought of something for a moment: just image Nintendo announces their next home console with 3D support in a few years. Now think about it for a minute... yes, you got it, you WILL NEED GLASSES! I know something for sure... Nintendo-only fans will praise Nintendo and say that glasses are ok. (btw: I consider myself a Sony AND Nintendo fan)

Funny... isn't it.

Seriously, that's the reason why they shouldn't bash glasses. Of course I don't think Sony should complain about that because they bash other companies and things as well (motion controls a few years ago, for example), but that's how PR works today, it seems...


i will never praise glasses, if their new consoles supports 3D i am still not goiung to have a 3DTV until it is glasses free

and your wrong on your point, nintendo would not be promoting/supporting 3D glasses, they would be supporting just 3D.  How you view that 3D is up to you.  Sony on other hand MAKES 3DTV's and GLASSES, thus they promote them.

Sony promotes them because it wants to sell 3DTVs now. Anyhow, most people won't buy 3DTVs with glasses, it will be a niche. But a rich one and not just Sony, but most TV manufacturers want a slice of that pie, despite they perfectly know that most users, like you and me, will be totally fine with 2D HDTV until glassesless 3D will be mainstream. Remember also that whatever regards stereoscopic 3D and is different from displays, that is cameras,media, consoles, players, recorders, ets, can be developed without any problem and without waiting for glassesless big 3DTVs, when they'll be ready, all the other stuff will be compatible with any newer stereoscopic display tech. This means that the industry has a big incentive to market also the glasses based niche to make it as big as possible, to drive all the other stuff's sales instead of having to make them wait for a single remaining piece of the tech to be ready.



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BBH on 16 July 2010
Arius Dion said:

I think this whole 3D push by Sony is going to hurt them, big time.

The whole electronics industry is pushing 3D.

And how might I ask?

It can only help Sony - unless 3D fails but that is so unlikely.



snfr on 16 July 2010
irstupid said:
snfr said:
irstupid said:


i will never praise glasses, if their new consoles supports 3D i am still not goiung to have a 3DTV until it is glasses free

and your wrong on your point, nintendo would not be promoting/supporting 3D glasses, they would be supporting just 3D.  How you view that 3D is up to you.  Sony on other hand MAKES 3DTV's and GLASSES, thus they promote them.

Bolded: Well, seems there are still reasonable people. Anyway, I don't have a problem with glasses right now and I won't have one in the future.

But you're second point is not fully correct. If they support 3D they automatically support 3D with glasses. That's simply because you won't be able to buy 3D TVs which don't require glasses on the mass market and these will still have the problem of the viewing angle (you have to sit exactly in the right viewing angle). The technology that is used for the 3DS is already used in TVs, Sony knows about that technology as well just as every other TV manufacturer, but with these problems you just can't promote them right (it would actually be stupid).

i don't know what you bolded cause nothuing seems bolded, but just because their new console that would support 3D and said they won't release or use 3D until 30% market penetration, doesn't mean they Support Glasses.

They support 3D, that is it.  what you saying is like if someone makes a game for the wii that is porn, that nintendo supports porn.  no they don't.  or a tv maker puts out a tv and you can hook up vhs, blue ray, dvd, laser disc, ect.  yes they support all those formats in the sense of one definition of support, but they are not promoting the use of one over the other.


Any 3D conosle, hell 10000 years in the future could be hooked up to an old tv that uses glasses, does that mean that console maker SUPPORTS or promotes in this case definition wise glasses?  no, it is just an option that you can do.  Nintendo would be supporting 3D, that is it.  It is up to the consumer what type of 3D.  Just as sony's ps3 supports 3D, you can play iit on a glasses free 3d tv too, just sony is promoting glasses since they make them. 

I bolded the first thing you said? Doesn't matter... forget about it...

I don't say that your logic doesn't make sense. But as I said glassless TVs exist, just to promote them would be stupid. So what else can Sony (and every other TV manufacturer) promote? 3D TVs with glasses is the answer. But it's not like Sony says: "you will always have to wear glasses to play games and watch films in 3D". When/if the problems with glassfree 3D TVs are solved you will still be able to play these games. So... Sony is also supporting 3D in general, but like every other manufacturer they have to sell TVs with glasses, of course.

Anyway, I don't really understand why so many people (I don't mean Nintendo) bash Sony. Buying a 3D TV and playing games and watching films in 3D will always be optional, so if people don't like it they just shouldn't buy it. And in my opinion Sony doesn't make a bad move with supporting 3D right now.



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BBH on 16 July 2010
Alby_da_Wolf said:
irstupid said:
snfr said:

I just thought of something for a moment: just image Nintendo announces their next home console with 3D support in a few years. Now think about it for a minute... yes, you got it, you WILL NEED GLASSES! I know something for sure... Nintendo-only fans will praise Nintendo and say that glasses are ok. (btw: I consider myself a Sony AND Nintendo fan)

Funny... isn't it.

Seriously, that's the reason why they shouldn't bash glasses. Of course I don't think Sony should complain about that because they bash other companies and things as well (motion controls a few years ago, for example), but that's how PR works today, it seems...


i will never praise glasses, if their new consoles supports 3D i am still not goiung to have a 3DTV until it is glasses free

and your wrong on your point, nintendo would not be promoting/supporting 3D glasses, they would be supporting just 3D.  How you view that 3D is up to you.  Sony on other hand MAKES 3DTV's and GLASSES, thus they promote them.

Sony promotes them because it wants to sell 3DTVs now. Anyhow, most people won't buy 3DTVs with glasses, it will be a niche. But a rich one and not just Sony, but most TV manufacturers want a slice of that pie, despite they perfectly know that most users, like you and me, will be totally fine with 2D HDTV until glassesless 3D will be mainstream. Remember also that whatever regards stereoscopic 3D and is different from displays, that is cameras,media, consoles, players, recorders, ets, can be developed without any problem and without waiting for glassesless big 3DTVs, when they'll be ready, all the other stuff will be compatible with any newer stereoscopic display tech. This means that the industry has a big incentive to market also the glasses based niche to make it as big as possible, to drive all the other stuff's sales instead of having to make them wait for a single remaining piece of the tech to be ready.

Cinemas and cinema sales show that glasses aren't such a big issue.....