darkgemini said:
1,5 Mio will be ok, 2 Mio will be a success (but I don´t think it will reach this number).
I expect it will reach 1.15, less successful than expected, but not that bomb, many people here say it is ^^ That´s all.
I just think, that Metroid usually has legs. In addition to that, this is something NEW, new things always need some time (and have legs, too).
And now lets have a look at the european sales, which are the main reason, Other M sells less. It is a "classic game", looking at the classic game sales in Europe, they never sold that much than the prime series.....
Metroid 2: 0,34
Metroid: 0,34
Metroid Fusion: 0,29
Super Metroid: 0,13
OM: Actually 0,7.( 5k per week at the moment)
I´m sure it will reach 200 -300 k in Europe. In Japan, it will outsell Echoes next week, it already sold more than corruption (!). It is not that bad. And yes, when this game will have legs, it can be successful. It CAN be. I´m not saying that it is or it will be! I just repeat, that we need to wait and dont´t judge too early...
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Other M sales are declining, and if it continues at this rate, it will sell less than the last Metroid. You believe in an inversion of this decline in sales, and your arguments for it are:
- "Metroid usually has legs" -> this has already been proven to be false;
- "this is something NEW, new things always need some time (and have legs, too)" -> do you have data to backup that a game, just because it is "new", relates to having legs? I do not see the relation;
- Metroid is selling less in Europe but in Japan is selling more and this can somewhat balance it. -> Well, it is also selling less in America, and after 7 weeks (and using VGChartz numbers), what Japan sold more (~ 13,500 difference with Corruption) is overshadowed (less than 5%) by what was sold less in the rest of the world (~ -283,000 difference). Other M is selling around 2.000 copies per week in Japan. It needs to continue like this for 2.5 - 3 years (quick-low estimate) to get to the same level as Corruption worldwide (probably more, since the American numbers might be overtracked).
Conclusion: "...it can be successful. It CAN be. I´m not saying that it is or it will be! I just repeat, that we need to wait and dont´t judge too early..."
We need to wait... for what? What can revert the situation? Christmas sales? If you cannot give a reason for defending that position, a reasonable person will think that the only reason for you to believe that Other M will revert its current tendency is because... you wish that it does. And that hardly makes for a discussion/conversation.
If you think 1.5 is ok, and 2.0 is a success, what do you call if it is below 1.5? I think the "fail vs. bomb vs. mega-flop" discussion is kind of pointless, but it is clear that sales deparment in companies usually define failure and success comparing expected sales with actual sales. Changing goalposts by saying it is a success because it had profit or because critics liked it is not honest.
Besides, in a post in this thread you asked someone for "evidence" for their claims. It is only fair if you are subjected to the same standard.
