I already said this. There have been many many great games already released with modding tools that are far better than what LBP2 has. None of them were great games because of the modding tools. They were great because of the gameplay they offered in the game itself, not the potential of their editors. As I already said, LBP2 is just barely within eyesight of what game editors can do. It is greatly catching up but it is still way off in the distance so even its editor isn't all that innovative, it's just playing catch up with what has been around for a while.

comparing a 98 with a 95 on meta seems far from insulting, perhaps yer just overly sensative.

I didn't even mention the editing tools, I was talking about the community and the new features they were getting through the new website for sharing and promoting levels.

I know what you were talking about. Game communities have existed for a long long time. Between UT, HL, Quake, and BioWare/Blizzard games, well developed communities have existed for a while now. They are not innovative. Spore actually has the whole central website and everything and it has been around for almost 2 years too. Nothing of what you have listed is actually innovative, it is just playing catch up with what already exists.

To take Spore because it has the closest community tools, going by the previews, as an example it only shows that the game is not made by the community even if the content of the game comes from the community. Everyone said Spore, adn Galactic Adventures too, had awesome editors but everyone said it was a poor game.

Spore had a creature creator and LBP has a level creator. The user generated content in LBP is made to be played by the community, not looked at like with Spore. What makes LBP (and 2) great is that the community is a build in feature of the game all most. And with LBP2, it's gonna be even easier to find the great levels and set them up for playing.

Umm, galactic adventures are exactly that, actual "levels" or adventures that the person plays with. Still got dissed because the game itself wasn't as solid. As I have said, online communities have existed a long time ago and for some games they are far ahead of what LBP2 would ever be able to achieve, and for none of the games was the community part of how good a game is. Every game needs to stand on its own, hopefully LBP2 will be even better than LBP1, however it is almost certian, unless they pull some amazing tricks out of their ass, that it will be worse than Galaxy 2.

As I said, Half-Life and UT should be the games of the entire century, given how CS, TF, Natural Selection, Alien Swarm, etc etc etc. games came out of their communities.

Cannot wait!!!! This and socom 4 will be amazing.