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Scoobes on 17 June 2010
Squilliam said:
JamaicameCRAZY said:

This is yet another rediculous thread. Your actually complaing about charging and OMG TANGLING CABLES! Anyone who is going to be gaming enough to warrent a repetative recharge is going to be a gamer and have their charging figured out. I find it refreshing that my game company doesn't want me to waste my time going to the SUPERMARKET to pick up batteries so i can game. I mean wow what a hassle that is.  And don't treat your cables like crap and they would'nt tangle. I mean seriously I have to state ways to not tangle your cables?

 Oh and Btw, "You don't have to buy or assume people have any extra accessories to make it work. Hell people can get away with a 20 pack of AA batteries if they want to from the supermarket.It... Just... Works... for everyone, you don't have to contrive scenarios."  You HAVE to get more batteries for the wii mote to work so that something you HAVE to buy in order to do that like you said go to the supermarket thats a CONTRIVED SENARIO. It wont work for everyone either.

Practicaly everything has usb ports these days like others have stated. If your a true gamer your house would have these bad boys in it.

 

You can't charge the controllers on stand by, you can't play and charge a motion controller and they have a lot of controllers whilst taking up one of the usb ports for the Eyetoy. This is an important issue. The only convenient solution to the charging issue is yet another accessory, the charge kit because thats the only way to store and charge the motion controllers which actually makes sense from a practical standpoint.

Btw most gamers go to the super market between once every month and once every week so its not a hassle to pick up batteries whilst you're there, its like toilet paper and you really shouldn't run out of them if you don't have a charger. Also you can pick up a charger for little more than the cost of a set of batteries so no more running out of them.

Do you not even find it remotely rediculous that the PS3 has no rear facing USB port? The fact that they design the thing to be part of someones home entertainment system and yet can't find it in their hearts to follow the standard and put a usb port at the back? Hell Nintendo/Microsoft both did it, they're dumb though and obviously not as smart as Sony when it comes to making hardware choices.

 


This thread is so pointless. Jneul already mentioned that he's seen a hub for 4 PS Move chargers. 1 USB, 4 controllers  charged. You can't charge batteries and play on the Wii either unless you have spares, but then that's an additional and collective cost if you're constantly buying AA batteries. If you run out of AA batteries (the non-chargable kind) and realise you're out, what then? You're forced to leave the house to buy more. You could say Nintendo were silly for forcing people to get rechargable batteries or constantly shell out for new batteries.. I ended up buying a rechargable station for the Wii which uses a USB port to charge AAA batteries whilst the console is on standby. But then I also had to buy the rechargable batteries for it.

Most people (not just gamers but general consumers) would see having to use AA batteries as backwards now as nearly all electronic devices have chargable batteries. iPod, mobile phones, laptops, iPhone, iPads, MP3 players, handheld gaming devices etc.I know that I hate having a device where I can't charge the batteries and forces me to go out and buy more. Fiddling around with batteries is more hassle (remove batteries, find charging dock, place into charging dock, wait, remove batteries, place back into device, play) than just plug 'n charge.

Everyone has a phone that needs regular charging and stops being mobile when you do, yet people cope. And USB is now well established in everyones home that charging becomes a non-issue. At quick count I have 19 USBs in my flat from a range of devices, 15 of which are currently free if I want to charge a device, 3 of which have cables attached to them so I can connect a device for charging.

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This is probably the most valid criticism you've made in the thread. In fact, if you'd made a thread about this it would probably have made more sense.




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Staude on 17 June 2010

I mostly charge my ps3 controllers on my laptop :p



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Hephaestos on 17 June 2010
silicon said:

I didn't know the PS EYE USB connection was permenant.


Also I WAS planning on buying 4 move controllers with nun-chucks the night it comes out, but now that I won't be able to charge all of them simultaneously I might just sell my PS3 instead.


This IS an issue as all I do is play video games so my controllers are constantly running out of battery and my PS3 sees no down time since I'm always playing it using all accessories.


don't buy four packs as you"re limited to 6 accessories connected to the PS3... so 3 move/nunchuc max (or 4 move alone), hence why squil says 4 M and 2 N.



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hentai_11 on 17 June 2010
KylieDog said:
hentai_11 said:

I think most here can't understand Squilliam, because they are gamers. However Sony tries to reach for new groups of people (non-gamers) with the move. And belive it or not some of these people don't know what an USB-Port is. But they know what a battery or a rechargeable battery is. Because batteries are already established. The voltaic pile, which is the first electric battery, was invented in 1800.

 

You seem to think that a casual gamer is somehow a stupid person.  It does not work like that I am afraid.

First point: I tried to avoid the term casual gamer ...

Second point: Just because someone doesn't know what USB is doesn't mean he is stupid.

Most people on the internet are elitists. (Even I am one sometimes ...) They can't understand, that there are people out there who don't know all those computer abbrevations. The think that all people already have a computer in their household. And that everyone is connected to the internet. But this is just not the case.

Long story short: Batteries are more mainstream than USB-chargeable devices.



maverick40 on 17 June 2010
Squilliam said:

Most PS3s these days have two front facing USB ports. If you add Move to the equation then automatically one USB port is permamently taken up by the camera which means you have one front facing USB port left for charging things and one port permamently taken up with a USB port snaking to the PS Eye camera. (correct me if im wrong here)

So now theres only one USB port which people have to charge 3 or more accessories depending on what you get unless you grab additional accessories, it reminds me of the little old lady who swallowed a fly if you get what I mean. A typical Move PS3 owner will likely have at minimum two Move wands, and two DS3s and they all have one charging point on the console. So to get around this Sony releases yet another accessory which is the Move charging station.

The average PS3 Move consumer will need a total of between 6 and 11 PS3 accessories depending on how many they buy and what games they like to play in order to charge and use Move for up to two players. That is, one Eyetoy, one or two chargers, two to four Move controllers, two DS3s and up to two nunchuck things. Thats pretty complicated especially when there are 4-8 independant controllers which each need attention in the form of charging on top of physically storing them out of the way when they aren't being used. Compare that to the Wiimote which requires just two charged controllers and has swappable AA batteries which can be charged in less than 1 hour, 15 minutes is possible too with the right charger.

So now some of Nintendos 'Stupidity' actually makes sense. Their sensor bar comes out of the back and you can get a wireless one if thats not practical. The nunchuck connects to the Wiimote because it means one less thing to take care of and the Wiimote uses AA batteries not because Nintendo is stupid but because most people are too lazy to plug things in after they have used them.

Im not trying to put a downer on the Move as a controller this is seperate from how good the thing is as an interface. Its a really good one in fact, but it seems that Sony didn't consider the practical side at the same time. The move system just seems over complicated and consumer unfriendly outside of a dedicated market. You have to be very dedicated and on top of things if you want to get the full experience shown at the Sony E3 conferrence. If you want to add 3D on top of every thing else and share it all with one other person you're going to need to keep two pairs of active shutter glasses charged at the same time! At minimum a 3D PS3 Move user will need around 8 accessories which require seperate charging!

 

 

surely a usb hub wouldnt break the bank right?? Problem solved, stop complaining.



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Hephaestos on 17 June 2010

All of you saying you charge on your laptop and other... that implies your laptop being on, so it won't charge overnight as it would if hooked to your PS3.

 

(however, a wall USB charger is probably more practical and cheaper than the wii charge stations.... Though, don't batteries in the DS3 start decaying after a few years? can you change them?)



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Jordahn on 17 June 2010
Squilliam said:

Im not trying to put a downer on the Move as a controller.....

 


Yes, you are.



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Aprisaiden on 17 June 2010

It is easy to charge up the Move controllers -- use any USB ports...

 Also if you want to be smart remember that the Navigation controller is optional and you can use a Sixaxis/DS3 instead. Therefore you only need 2 standard controllers 2 Move controllers for 2 players, and since people can cope with having 4 standard controllers and charging them, i don't see how the move controllers will be any different. 

 As for Move targeting consumers who don't know how to charge devices via USB, well if they can't figure it out (hint: the PS3 manual tells you how) then they will have difficulty playing PS3 games (and even Wii games !)



Vanbierk on 17 June 2010

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/nyko-charge-base-for-playstation-move-available-for-pre-order/

 

Easy decision for me...

 

And on a side-note, http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/playstation-move-shooting-attachment-in-pictures-the-ray-gun-yo/ is just beautiful



Just waiting for that PS Vita to come out so I can play some full featured games on the go with that beautiful screen and control scheme...

irstupid on 17 June 2010

the title really shouldn't be about Move, it should just be about the PS3 being stupid for having only 2 usb slots.

I mean having anywhere from 1-10 things that need to use usb things to charge in and only having TWO.

If you have a PSEye, then that means only 1 open slot left to charge your up to 10 controlers that need charging.  Feels like you need to set a kitchen timer or something to remind you to swap charging every hour or so

 

those saying any USB, yea sure duh, but relaly its so great to have controlers spread out around the house charging at different spots.  And sadly as this may be true, most poeple somehow aren't that smart to even know that you can do that.  I can't imagine any of the girls in my house even thinking of the possibility of that being true.