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tuscaniman on 16 June 2010
aragod said:
tuscaniman said:
Brennan said:

Yeah, it was really MS worst conference ever... They really want to turn their 360 into a Wii and abandon their core gamers crowd ??? It really puzzles me.

It's like throwing billions through the window, Xbox has so many fans. They risk losing in both core gaming AND casual gaming by going Wii too... I mean there's not a single core Kinect game. Not ONE...

MS investors already wanted them to stop with gaming, I think they'll definitely do that now, unless Kinect is VERY successful (maybe 5 % chance, not more...).


Yeah MS totally doesn't care about its core gamer. I mean Halo:Reach and Gears of War 3 aren't important at all. Also exclusive Call of Duty content for the next 3 years is garbage. Forza:Kinect is also non existent I'm sure I was just imagining that. Also a Crytek exclusive plus tons of big time multiplats are headed this way. All that has been thrown out the window.

Edit: I forgot Fable III. Nobody cares about that worthless game either.

Even though you are trying to sound sarcastic, it's closer to the dreaded reality. Exclusive Call of Duty content means more worthless DLCs one month before the PS3 version, Crytek exclusive is as useful as Agent from Rockstar, both Halo and Gears are milked enough and even though they will offer good experience, they are still the very same games since the first iterration. Fable III is comming to PC and will offer most likely better experience there.

Now Kinect surely stole hearts of many gamers (did not), but it was a little too little. The only really interesting game in the whole MS conference was MGS:Rising which is a multiplat. MS wasted Rare's potential on useless Wii Sports ripoff. They had Kinect centric conference day before just to waste you time with the same casual crap during the main conference. Half of the demo's were staged.

Make of it what you will, but the general response from the gaming community including press was negative and I'm not sure that the Xbox brand can afford that right now.

Gears and Halo are milked? Then you can cross off Killzone and Gran Turismo off your list because Gran Turismo has more games then Halo in the series, and Killzone is releasing Killzone 3, the exact number of games as Gears. While you're at it cross off Twisted Metal since that has been milked as well. See how I just did that? Your Sony lineup is pretty weak at this point. If you're a ninty fan then cross off Donkey Kong, Zelda, and Goldeneye, all milked.



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noname2200 on 16 June 2010
tuscaniman said:


The Move bundle is $99. Where are you getting this $50 from? You realize you need the PS Eye for it to even work don't you? Not to mention on top of the bundle you would have to pay another $29 for the secondary controller since it doesn't come with it.

I understand that the secondary controller is not necessary and that it can be replaced with a Dualshock, albeit awkwardly.



tuscaniman on 16 June 2010
noname2200 said:
tuscaniman said:


The Move bundle is $99. Where are you getting this $50 from? You realize you need the PS Eye for it to even work don't you? Not to mention on top of the bundle you would have to pay another $29 for the secondary controller since it doesn't come with it.

I understand that the secondary controller is not necessary and that it can be replaced with a Dualshock, albeit awkwardly.

A Dualshock is $49 therefore its cheaper to buy the secondary controller if you want more than one person to play.



noname2200 on 16 June 2010
tuscaniman said:

A Dualshock is $49 therefore its cheaper to buy the secondary controller if you want more than one person to play.


I'm assuming that any PS3 owner who plays local multiplayer already owns a second Dualshock, and that new owners who want to play locally would have had to buy the second Dualshock anways.  In nearly all cases, I'm sure I'm correct.



Munkeh111 on 16 June 2010
Phobos said:

The lack of HaloWars 2 was the only thing I was really disappointet. And the lack of some AAA for Kinect like Killer Instinct, of course.

HaloReach was great, GoW3 as well and then the new exclusive from Crytek.

I just dont have the time to play so many different games - so it was OK for me, that M$ hadn't showen so many new games.


If only, but I am not expecting another one with the closure of Ensemble



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tuscaniman on 16 June 2010
De85 said:

I don't care what anyone else says about Kinect, I've been thinking about it recently and I think that once the first Fight Night that supports it comes out I'm there day 1... Boxing the way it was meant to be played - no controllers at all...

As for "core stuff" as long as my Fable 3 and Halo: Reach are still coming then I'm perfectly happy.


I agree with you. Boxing is terrible with a controller. I can't wait till it comes out for Kinect. Dodging punches with my head, blocking with my hands. I will buy Kinect before thats released but it will be an amazing experience when it comes out.



De85 on 16 June 2010
blaydcor said:
De85 said:

I don't care what anyone else says about Kinect, I've been thinking about it recently and I think that once the first Fight Night that supports it comes out I'm there day 1... Boxing the way it was meant to be played - no controllers at all...

As for "core stuff" as long as my Fable 3 and Halo: Reach are still coming then I'm perfectly happy.

I think that boxing the way it was meant to be played is real boxing. 

Touché, but since I'd rather not have my face bashed in I'll stick with the Kinect version.  Also you can't really argue that Kinect boxing would be the best boxing experience as is possible to achieve on consoles...



noname2200 on 16 June 2010
De85 said:

Touché, but since I'd rather not have my face bashed in I'll stick with the Kinect version.  Also you can't really argue that Kinect boxing would be the best boxing experience as is possible to achieve on consoles...

They showed off a Kinect boxing game?  How'd it look, and who's developing it?  What were people's hands-on impressions like?



De85 on 16 June 2010
noname2200 said:
De85 said:

Touché, but since I'd rather not have my face bashed in I'll stick with the Kinect version.  Also you can't really argue that Kinect boxing would be the best boxing experience as is possible to achieve on consoles...

They showed off a Kinect boxing game?  How'd it look, and who's developing it?  What were people's hands-on impressions like?


I didn't follow the press conferences but I don't think so, I'm just anticipating the next version of Fight Night.  IMO Kinect is just perfect for a boxing game...



tuscaniman on 16 June 2010
Ruiz_Tubbs said:

Anyone that thought that M$ conference was good must be blind. The one had one previously unknown AAA title which didn't even give us any game play or CGI. The Crytek game was the only one. Secondly, kinect will be an epic failure. They're worried about how well it will do so they should therebest games for it trying to build hype. If they announced the price everyone would have just lose interest. report price is $180us. There even talking about having a cheaper one without the motor for $130us.

ms e3 was garbage.


Thanks for that wonderful insight. So what exactly did Sony show that was unannounced that blew our minds? Oh yeah Twisted Metal. A rehash of a nostalgic series. Even at $180 Kinect would still be cheaper than Move if you wanted more then 1 person to play which is the whole point of motion control gaming. Secondly I'm pretty sure nobody knew about a new Forza Kinect game and ESPN which is exclusive to the 360.