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I am confused. Didn't the dreamcast fail and finish off the dying Sega brand? That came out first correct? Did the PS2 DESTROY the Dreamcast? Yeah. I am fairly certain you are confused somewhere. Its more like Microsoft and the 360.



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I'm going to be the curmudgeon and say I am not willing to bet on the 3DS just yet. Yes I will have to buy it because its going to get more of the N64 games we want in our handhelds. But as far as the 3D is concerned, I just can't care and I don't understand everyones fascination for it. Whether its the 3D glasses tech or this anistrophic tech it just doesn't matter to me. Just as I am still not sold on the DS touch screen. Every game i've played on my DS i've used the D-pad whenever I can instead of the stylus. 



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AnthonyW86 said:

I think Sony is just playing smart and are waiting to see what Nintendo will do with 3DS. They don't want to bring out a system just to have it miss features that Nintendo's system does have. They made that mistake with the first PSP, with DS having touchscreen. Then the same thing happened with PS3 and Wii having motion controls, with Sony missing out again.

All Sony will do now is look at what Nintendo does and then improve on that. That way can launch a similiar system as to 3DS only more powerfull and with extra features, and get an advantage that way.

Does anyone know what kind of storage media 3DS will use? 

This would not work at all. The 3DS has hit the "powerful enough" barrier, so unless Sony introduces something completely new, their next handheld cannot compete at all.

It almost seems like you think this is about competing hardware, but it's not. The systems sell on games, and if Nintendo has high profile 3rd party games right off the bat, on top of a large library / install base before Sony's release, they're screwed. This is actually how Sony got their strong start against Nintendo in the first place (with PS1), but in this case it's even worse, because Nintendo's first party is far stronger than Sony's.


@joeorc: Can you clarify this "those who make the stuff get cheaper" but those who don't somehow... dont? It doesn't make any sense to me. The costs also come down for the consumer, otherwise we take our business with someone else - someone who does lower their prices.

The situation is no different for Nintendo.



joeorc said:
Shonen said:

I just wanna ask one thing , how can u guys see the PSP 2 being relevant ? What features it could possible have to become relevant ? 

 

-Being a Phone (Does not count cu u know) in the End, phone games are cool (and i love some android games on my phone) but its like u play than for what 5 min and it starts to repeat itself over and over) And even if it is a FULL PSP with phone on , would be too much money to burn , with fee for at and t or verizon, and for that alone i would not consider it a relevant competitor for 3DS.

"I just wanna ask one thing , how can u guys see the PSP 2 being relevant ? What features it could possible have to become relevant ? "

"that's like saying what are you going to do now sony , make something to compete with the 3DS but it cannot be a smartphone!"

why does it not count?

it would still be a handheld

"i would not consider it a relevant competitor for 3DS."

it will Im sure it with the iphone!

so why not the PSPphone?

if the PSPphone get's PSP game's what would be anything other than it being a phone and it's design that is not like the psp we have now in functionality?

Sorry dude i cant see someone interested in gaming paying what 299 for a portable machine and/or monthly fees that are over 100 bucks to play 30 bucks AAA games.. really i cant see that coming, and for me neither Iphone or Ipad are giving DS any problem (DS SALES still doing as they ever did) and with glass-free 3D and the new connetcion features , so idont think that put a phone function there would make any difference i mean today wi-fi is almost everywhere, and with Skype and a browser (with flash i sad WITH FREAKING FLASH (hear that apple)) plus the 3D camera i cant really see how a PSPhone would be relevant ...



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Shonen said:
joeorc said:
Shonen said:

I just wanna ask one thing , how can u guys see the PSP 2 being relevant ? What features it could possible have to become relevant ? 

 

-Being a Phone (Does not count cu u know) in the End, phone games are cool (and i love some android games on my phone) but its like u play than for what 5 min and it starts to repeat itself over and over) And even if it is a FULL PSP with phone on , would be too much money to burn , with fee for at and t or verizon, and for that alone i would not consider it a relevant competitor for 3DS.

"I just wanna ask one thing , how can u guys see the PSP 2 being relevant ? What features it could possible have to become relevant ? "

"that's like saying what are you going to do now sony , make something to compete with the 3DS but it cannot be a smartphone!"

why does it not count?

it would still be a handheld

"i would not consider it a relevant competitor for 3DS."

it will Im sure it with the iphone!

so why not the PSPphone?

if the PSPphone get's PSP game's what would be anything other than it being a phone and it's design that is not like the psp we have now in functionality?

Sorry dude i cant see someone interested in gaming paying what 299 for a portable machine and/or monthly fees that are over 100 bucks to play 30 bucks AAA games.. really i cant see that coming, and for me neither Iphone or Ipad are giving DS any problem (DS SALES still doing as they ever did) and with glass-free 3D and the new connetcion features , so idont think that put a phone function there would make any difference i mean today wi-fi is almost everywhere, and with Skype and a browser (with flash i sad WITH FREAKING FLASH (hear that apple)) plus the 3D camera i cant really see how a PSPhone would be relevant ...


Still i really saying "HEY SONY WHAT U GONNA DO NOW" but i think they can do the best smart  phone ever and still they would not have a chance against 3DS in the same way that the multi-media PSP could match DS software line-up , the idea over my post is "HEY guys what do u think that sony could do to make a PSP 2 relevant?" 

ps:I just quote myself ...



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Nintendo could u please just take my money and give me back my 3DS?!

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Shonen said:
joeorc said:
Shonen said:

I just wanna ask one thing , how can u guys see the PSP 2 being relevant ? What features it could possible have to become relevant ? 

 

-Being a Phone (Does not count cu u know) in the End, phone games are cool (and i love some android games on my phone) but its like u play than for what 5 min and it starts to repeat itself over and over) And even if it is a FULL PSP with phone on , would be too much money to burn , with fee for at and t or verizon, and for that alone i would not consider it a relevant competitor for 3DS.

"I just wanna ask one thing , how can u guys see the PSP 2 being relevant ? What features it could possible have to become relevant ? "

"that's like saying what are you going to do now sony , make something to compete with the 3DS but it cannot be a smartphone!"

why does it not count?

it would still be a handheld

"i would not consider it a relevant competitor for 3DS."

it will Im sure it with the iphone!

so why not the PSPphone?

if the PSPphone get's PSP game's what would be anything other than it being a phone and it's design that is not like the psp we have now in functionality?

Sorry dude i cant see someone interested in gaming paying what 299 for a portable machine and/or monthly fees that are over 100 bucks to play 30 bucks AAA games.. really i cant see that coming, and for me neither Iphone or Ipad are giving DS any problem (DS SALES still doing as they ever did) and with glass-free 3D and the new connetcion features , so idont think that put a phone function there would make any difference i mean today wi-fi is almost everywhere, and with Skype and a browser (with flash i sad WITH FREAKING FLASH (hear that apple)) plus the 3D camera i cant really see how a PSPhone would be relevant ...

who says it's going to be $299.00?

most if not all Smartphone's are subsidized.

"for me neither Iphone or Ipad are giving DS any problem"

well the Industry seem's to say apple's Iphone is competeing with said Ds and PSP'

esp. when developer's are looking to put some of their big Ip's even on smartphone's.

With Sony.they have their Own Ip's but from what i gather you do not care about Sony anyway. so why would it matter to you anyhow?

this is what this whole thread is pretty much about

with the New's about the 3DS.

this entire thread pretty much is a PSP FUD fest. pretty sad if you ask me.



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Shonen said:
 


Still i really saying "HEY SONY WHAT U GONNA DO NOW" but i think they can do the best smart  phone ever and still would have a chance against 3DS in the same way that the multi-media PSP could match DS software line-up , the idea over my post is "HEY guys what do u think that sony could do to make a PSP 2 relevant?" 

I do not think you are overlooking the one big thing..it does not have to compete with the 3DS!

the 3DS is just one freakin Hand Held..!

I like the 3DS just as much as the next guy. but I do not think Sony is going to keep the PSP format tied to where it is not in the Market.

the Smartphone market is not the Same market as where the DS and the PSP is. that's why moving the PSP format to that smartphone market is a good one.

You only nedd one handheld at a time.

like you stated you do not like to use a smartphone for game's that's fine other's do just fine for smart phone's for game's.

the point is the 3DS will not be the only Hand Held that Has Game's for the Hand Held.



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CrashMan said:

The PSP2 will now be delayed so they can add 3D to it, ripping off Nintendo pre-launch so they don't have to do it retroactively (again)

If they add 3D to PSP2 they wouldn't be copying Nintendo as Sony has made it clear before the 3DS was announced that's their goal going forward. Don't be fanboyish. With that said, there's no reason for a PSP2, the 3DS has ALL the games that made the PSP a success.



c0rd said:
AnthonyW86 said:

I think Sony is just playing smart and are waiting to see what Nintendo will do with 3DS. They don't want to bring out a system just to have it miss features that Nintendo's system does have. They made that mistake with the first PSP, with DS having touchscreen. Then the same thing happened with PS3 and Wii having motion controls, with Sony missing out again.

All Sony will do now is look at what Nintendo does and then improve on that. That way can launch a similiar system as to 3DS only more powerfull and with extra features, and get an advantage that way.

Does anyone know what kind of storage media 3DS will use? 

This would not work at all. The 3DS has hit the "powerful enough" barrier, so unless Sony introduces something completely new, their next handheld cannot compete at all.

It almost seems like you think this is about competing hardware, but it's not. The systems sell on games, and if Nintendo has high profile 3rd party games right off the bat, on top of a large library / install base before Sony's release, they're screwed. This is actually how Sony got their strong start against Nintendo in the first place (with PS1), but in this case it's even worse, because Nintendo's first party is far stronger than Sony's.


@joeorc: Can you clarify this "those who make the stuff get cheaper" but those who don't somehow... dont? It doesn't make any sense to me. The costs also come down for the consumer, otherwise we take our business with someone else - someone who does lower their prices.

The situation is no different for Nintendo.


exactly, there is no monopoly on chips.  many companies make them and nintnedo will shop around.

making your own though you are stuck with a little thing called R&D expenses and let me tell you that R&D is the sole reason things costs so much in the first place.  The parts, making something, labor and so on istn' why a product is expensive, its covering the R&D that went into making the thing



ElGranCabeza said:
CrashMan said:

The PSP2 will now be delayed so they can add 3D to it, ripping off Nintendo pre-launch so they don't have to do it retroactively (again)

If they add 3D to PSP2 they wouldn't be copying Nintendo as Sony has made it clear before the 3DS was announced that's their goal going forward. Don't be fanboyish. With that said, there's no reason for a PSP2, the 3DS has ALL the games that made the PSP a success.

which is why I would say do not be suprised when sony release's the new PSP android Smartphone!

"Interestingly enough, the PlayStation Network development team now reports to Tim Schaaf, an ex-Apple veteran who is now Sony’s first head of software development, and is also part of Hirai’s new division."

http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/28/rumour-sony-to-develop-gaming-phone/

this:

http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/04/22/sony.gracnote/

"Now, Schaaff is navigating similarly turbulent waters -- but this time by choice. Appointed last December as Sony's (SNE) new senior vice-president for software development, Schaaff has control over design, intellectual property, licensing, and product planning and engineering."

Schaaff's record of backing industry standards at Apple suggests he'll prod Sony toward a similar position. As the head of QuickTime, he made sure Apple took part in the Moving Picture Experts Group and the Internet Streaming Media Alliance, which sought to fix formats for online media technologies. QuickTime's incorporation of those standards helped win wide acceptance for the digital MPEG-4 video format among Hollywood studios, advertisers, and consumers alike.

That dovetails with Stringer's plans to get Sony to embrace industrywide formats and make its gizmos more compatible with other companies'. If Sony adopts the kind of stance that Schaaf did with QuickTime, one day you might be able to download a game, song, or movie from a one-stop Sony online shop onto a machine made by Sony, Panasonic, or Samsung.

" Christopher David, head of developer and partner engagement at Sony Ericsson told Pocket-Lint. “It should be expected". So far, the PS3 app runs on the Aino’s Nexus UX platform, allowing users to access the PS3 from the phone and stream content to their handset from anywhere in the world. The X10 already sports the same DLNA and wireless connectivity as the Aino, plus has a fast 1GHz Snapdragon processor and four-inch screen – all well suited to gamers."

REMEMBER:

"Now, Schaaff is navigating similarly turbulent waters -- but this time by choice. Appointed last December as Sony's (SNE) new senior vice-president for software development, Schaaff has control over design, intellectual property, licensing, and product planning and engineering."

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ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.