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jneul said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Seece said:
jneul said:
Seece said:

"no copy and clone moaning"? what the hell does that mean?

and this "worry" you have for us all isn't remotely new ...


Basically no winging about who copied who allowed.


Or you'll what?

No need to be argumentative, you know exactly how these threads turn out when people moan about copying & cloning seece.

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@jneul

Thats a good worry BUT SONY made it clear it doesn't want shovelware on its platform a few days ago, I think SONY shares you worry & they'll be doing everything they can to prevent this

The industry is too mainstream & powerful now for a Atari days disaster to happen, so that shouldn't worry you anyway. We have games debuting higher than blockbuster movies do nowadays, an Atari type disaster happening is slim,.


cool i dunno why people assumed i was attacking natal lool at least you understood my underlying worry, and like you said hopefully the industry is too mainstream now for that to happen, not to mention companies do seem to be making an effort to reduce the amount of shovelware which is good.

also can't wait for more games like xenoblade, last story on th wii:P:P super hyped lool

I don't know either, you didn't say a single bad thing about NATAL, oh well some people see what they want to see.

I do believe the industry is simply too big now & spread over so many countries for what your saying to happen, I hope you can understand this? Besides there is a core group of hardcore gamers in large numbers that buy games after researching a lot, back in the Atari days NONE of this was really there, gaming was at its infancy, at its most vulnerable & faith in gaming was still not that high.

Can't wait for The Last Story or Xenoblade either....particularly The Last Story lol



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You can make potentially great games with motion controls like socom 4, but making hardcore games like this will definately have a big risk.

the hardcore gamers propably don't need the motion controls (I don't atleast), while the game itself is VERY niche genre with casuals if you consider that most casual gamers seem to just go with the simple sports/fitness games and are uninformed about the gaming trends, and are content with mediocre games when there would be much better available.

So for a game company wouldn't it be better to release a sports game rather than FPS for example? I would think the Sports game would sell twice the amount of copies than Socom 4 if it just had a decent TV-commercial, because there's multiple times more potential casual buyers compared to hardcore.

I fear the game studios start to prefer the simplistic motion control games on 360/PS3 because that's where the bigger customer base is, over well-written storylines and decent gameplay.



darthdevidem01 said:
jneul said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Seece said:
jneul said:
Seece said:

"no copy and clone moaning"? what the hell does that mean?

and this "worry" you have for us all isn't remotely new ...


Basically no winging about who copied who allowed.


Or you'll what?

No need to be argumentative, you know exactly how these threads turn out when people moan about copying & cloning seece.

_______________

@jneul

Thats a good worry BUT SONY made it clear it doesn't want shovelware on its platform a few days ago, I think SONY shares you worry & they'll be doing everything they can to prevent this

The industry is too mainstream & powerful now for a Atari days disaster to happen, so that shouldn't worry you anyway. We have games debuting higher than blockbuster movies do nowadays, an Atari type disaster happening is slim,.


cool i dunno why people assumed i was attacking natal lool at least you understood my underlying worry, and like you said hopefully the industry is too mainstream now for that to happen, not to mention companies do seem to be making an effort to reduce the amount of shovelware which is good.

also can't wait for more games like xenoblade, last story on th wii:P:P super hyped lool

I don't know either, you didn't say a single bad thing about NATAL, oh well some people see what they want to see.

I do believe the industry is simply too big now & spread over so many countries for what your saying to happen, I hope you can understand this? Besides there is a core group of hardcore gamers in large numbers that buy games after researching a lot, back in the Atari days NONE of this was really there, gaming was at its infancy, at its most vulnerable & faith in gaming was still not that high.

Can't wait for The Last Story or Xenoblade either....particularly The Last Story lol

of course i can understand that, i guess i worry too much loool



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Vashyo said:

You can make potentially great games with motion controls like socom 4, but making hardcore games like this will definately have a big risk.

the hardcore gamers propably don't need the motion controls (I don't atleast), while the game itself is VERY niche genre with casuals if you consider that most casual gamers seem to just go with the simple sports/fitness games and are uninformed about the gaming trends, and are content with mediocre games when there would be much better available.

So for a game company wouldn't it be better to release a sports game rather than FPS for example? I would think the Sports game would sell twice the amount of copies than Socom 4 if it just had a decent TV-commercial, because there's multiple times more potential casual buyers compared to hardcore.

I fear the game studios start to prefer the simplistic motion control games on 360/PS3 because that's where the bigger customer base is, over well-written storylines and decent gameplay.

yeah, I agree with this guy.

I dont wanna play socom with motion, I hate to hold to piece of remote in both hands.

thats a big problem with the wii, when Im playin a game like wii sport where the game is all about motion and fun,Im ok but when Im playin games like mario galaxy and even nsmbw at first, I always think about if only I could use the gamecube controller.

example : monster hunter ,smash brawl , resident evil archives, are all games where u can choose the controller u want. I bet 3/4 or even more use the classic or the gamecube controller.



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Motion gaming is a great leap forward in the video game industry it's not like all

the game company are giving up on quality of games it won't be like the game

crash of 1983. As long as the quality of games are great and afforable then there

is nothing to worry about.



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So long as there is good content, there will be consumers for it.

Poor product will lead to consumer apathy, see 1983's crash, but as long as there is quality I don't see much of a problem.

Also there's a difference between bad and not for you.



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It's just the next era of gaming. I know it's hard for the PS generation to understand but there was actually generations before 1995. In fact, there's been shifts like motion control before such as bringing 3d into games and actually having a screen move (as opposed to nothing but static screens you move to and from). 

The 3d era had a TON of really horrible, crappy games. In fact if you look at any major tech jump you're going to see the same thing to a greater or lesser extent.  The only difference is this time around the tech is being met with resistance from crying manbabies who would rather make the same played out shit they have for the last 15 years (only this time in HD!!!) than try something genuinely new.

You really think after the success of the Wii that motion control won't become the new standard for all future generations?  Yes, there will be more elegant solutions to motion gaming than wagglewaggle, and we'll probably see some interesting and significant jumps in technology, but it's a testament to how uncreative the video game industry is as a whole that we haven't seen new genres pop up. 

The industry outside of Nintendo is dying and catering to a smaller and smaller group, I sincerely doubt Sony and Microsoft are going to release another console where the standard control isn't some kind of motion controller. 

That era is dead and ironically the 2 most powerful consoles on the market are dinosaurs playing catchup to the weaker console, but evolution has never been about who is strongest and rather who adapts to change the best.



cAPSLOCK said:

It's just the next era of gaming. I know it's hard for the PS generation to understand but there was actually generations before 1995. In fact, there's been shifts like motion control before such as bringing 3d into games and actually having a screen move (as opposed to nothing but static screens you move to and from). 

The 3d era had a TON of really horrible, crappy games. In fact if you look at any major tech jump you're going to see the same thing to a greater or lesser extent.  The only difference is this time around the tech is being met with resistance from crying manbabies who would rather make the same played out shit they have for the last 15 years (only this time in HD!!!) than try something genuinely new.

You really think after the success of the Wii that motion control won't become the new standard for all future generations?  Yes, there will be more elegant solutions to motion gaming than wagglewaggle, and we'll probably see some interesting and significant jumps in technology, but it's a testament to how uncreative the video game industry is as a whole that we haven't seen new genres pop up. 

The industry outside of Nintendo is dying and catering to a smaller and smaller group, I sincerely doubt Sony and Microsoft are going to release another console where the standard control isn't some kind of motion controller. 

That era is dead and ironically the 2 most powerful consoles on the market are dinosaurs playing catchup to the weaker console, but evolution has never been about who is strongest and rather who adapts to change the best.


Funny stuff seen as I have been gaming since the c64 days, not all the ps generation is ignorant like what you claim, infact I was there myself to witness the fall of gaming back in the atari days.

Honestly you are wrong about nintendo, all they have been doing is re-releasing mario and zelda for the past 20 years same story, different gameplay mechanics and some graphics upgrades.

Sony has actually brought more variety to gaming, which is why the ps dominated for two whole generations it was not just a simple graphic tweak as you suggested, we actually saw new things in games that was not simply possible on the SNES or anything before them, so sony innovate in their own way they do it by bringing us different games which are totally fresh and not just the same old rehash which get's forgotten because it's only kids that don't know that mario has been using the same formula for a long time, not that it's bad thing, but nintendo only innovated by changed the form of game controls .

Don't even bring xbox in here because it only caters towards one thing and it is the sad reason why we are all flooded with the same kind of game, yes it's the horrible FPS....



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