? Sadly I'd beg to differ because of the success of the pre-order games aka hyped games. Mario Galaxy is a good platformer so deserves it's praise (maybe not all the "Bezt gaem ever" BS), but take a turd like MW2 and now that's the benchmark for FPS' even though many seasoned gamers would say it's one of the weakest FPS' this generation. And end of the day sales = who defines gaming. 

Notice I said best EXCLUSIVES, not best library. The HD consoles both have great games, probably moreso than the Wii, but they sort of take value from eachother in a sense by having the majority of their great games on both consoles. I think most can reasonably agree that in terms of EXCLUSIVES, the Wii shines best.

Maybe to you it's not the best value, but somehow I think a console with Wii Sports and Sports Resort, and a controller w/ motion plus, for $200, is a pretty damn good dea, and I think many people feel the same way...

When PS3 gets the Move, it'll lack more than just Nintendo's games. It'll also lack the context in which motion controlled games are used. Which is, reaching out and making new types of gaming experiences for new (and ex) gaming audiences. I don't see Sony doing this with the Move. All I see is cheap cash in "casual" titles and tacked on motion control for already existing core games, which is why the Move will fail. Pointing to motion controls for the root of Wii's success is largely missing the point of its success.

Your post is full of pretty weak arguments and generally minority viewpoints against the Wii, which to me further proves my last post :P

But you say the "seasoned gamer" disagrees.  I thought the seasoned gamer was the people who don't rule gaming.  Let's face it, MW2 is a very "casual" game, similar to the majority of Wii gamers (aka the ones who buy games based on how cool the cover looks).  And the main Nintendo games have sales that are even crazier then MW2.  I think we agree actually.

It's just kinda funny how the article says that it added yoshi, new power ups, power ups for yoshi, all new levels, and then says it's a copy paste job, which contradicts with his third point as well on the cutting part. If you read it closely, it's full of fail and end of that imo.

I'd add that a lot of "hardcore" gamers have tried to convince themselves that Wii has "no good games" so they feel like they can skip owning a Wii and still experience all the best games of this generation.

Then, when games like Galaxy 1 and 2 come out and are hailed as some of the best out there, they try to belittle them to prop up their flawed belief system and justify their bias.

2 and 3 are contradictory, thus the author is a fucking troll who is trying to insult SMG2 without having any legitimate claims other than "I hate teh Wii'

How the fuck can you dislike the lives system on the basis that it wastes time and then like the overworld? The castle is 64 was a huge world full of linear coridoors that added nothing to the game and wasted my time.

I'm sorry, how can anyone take this guy seriously?

And as for the first, if they changed much more than they did people would start saying that it's "a good game, but it's just not Mario"

And as for his other, slightly more legitimate points... Oh wait, he only said the three things I have already destroyed. Moving on to a better thread now

Edit - why did I end one of my sentences with 'Can't point' I scare me sometimes

Isn't this subject done to death. If the reveiwers are giving retread games like GTA series a 10 and that was discussed. Then this particular article that SMG2 doesn't deserve 10's to be the same lame. So essentially the writer is guilty of the same actions as the reivewers for giving 10's.

Well then I give this article/thread a 10.

What this guy is doing is making a huge deal out of things that aren't very important. For example, he complains that the map for selecting levels is not exciting. First of all, WHO CARES? The map is not the important part of the game, the GAMEPLAY is the important part. If the map was the exact same as it was in SMG 1, I'm sure he would've said "Oh my gosh, the map is the exact same as it was in the first game, why can't they change it? I don't want to choose my levels the same way I did in Galaxy 1, I want some thing new!!"

umm... I thought that The Legend of Zelda:Ocarina of Time was THE BEST game according to metacritic with a score of 99.

yea because your beloved squaresoft doesnt recycle at all.

ill make it easier. FF8 was a cut and paste of FF2, 4, 6, well, all of em lol

good game? yes

9.1-10? HELL NO

ooh, banned AND burned