I'm more wondering what'll happen if the $299 price for an Arcade/Natal bundle is true, and if they'll only sell Natal bundles from that point on (which was rumored they'd do to help drive Natal adoption).

Oh dear.

Sony should price cut to capitalize imo.

2. I have cable and i havent seen a Xbox 360 ad (alone, not at the end of a game trailer) in the US since 2008.

3.Again you misunderstood me, i said they are not gonna sell the numbers of a Mario game.

4. Im sure Natal is cool and fun to play with for about 20 minutes, and if it does go to the PC that will be even better, but MS is supposed to focus on the Xbox. Its a "midlife kicker" for the 360, and if it cost almost as much as an Arcade then its gonna flop.

5. No i dont know the pricing yet, but im posting in a thread that does guess (or knows) how much Natal will cost.

6. The reason why Wii games are $50 is because their not HD, if they were HD they would be $60.

7.  The reason why PS3 is selling well is not because of Kevin Butler ads, its not because of modnation racers, its not because of the exclusives, its because 3 things

1. Pricecut
2. Blu Ray player
3. Free PSN

I'm too lazy to make my body the controller so anything higher than free is too much for me to pay. The only thing that could change my mind is if they showed some type of revolutionary mind blowing hardcore title that looked like too much fun to pass up.

Garnet...sony is selling doing to thier rebranding/pr.

Suck's you havent seen a ad yet guess just bad timing or something.*but then again we have the net*



I've yet to see a ps3 exclusive be a system seller...only one that could do that will be GT5.

For me to have 4 wii motes*without motion plus* and the nunchuks you realize thats over 180$ and then some with tax.

Now sony is doing thier starter bundle...100$+tax so my area that = 110$...they kindly regret to tell ya thats for 1 person....games like thier table tennis/tennis and any mutli player games...well...lets just say that could reach upto 400$..umm...yeah. Just for me and my gf to enjoy move thats 200$..imagine if your a famliy guy with kids.....natal starts looking rather nice compared to the amount of cash you'd lay down for move.

Not only that..it gets folks up and moving about...that looks rather nice instead of tossin your kids a controler and watching them plop down on the sofa and sit.

Family wise natal has alot of possablities..

Agreed.  I have completely changed my outlook on this holiday and beyond because of these unconfirmed reports.  We'll have to see if these are legitimate or very clever, calculated bits of misinformation. 

I'm going to file this one into unconfirmed rumor until we get official word from MS in about two weeks at E3.

But if it's true, they must have something genuinely magical primed for release with Natal in the form of a must have, hardware selling killer app included in the upgrade kit. Otherwise, $150 is simply too much.

Personally, my opinion just went from "will buy on day 1 just to experiment with" to "will possibly buy if/when MS releases a Natal game I absolutely don't want to miss."

It makes less sense for MS to have too many standard SKUs on the market, but the Natal bundle is a given.

The downside of removing the $199 Arcade SKU is that it cuts out millions of potential sub $200 consumers.

It would also be a bit of an odd choice for most consumers to choose between a $299 Natal bundle with no HDD and the "Elite" with a 120GB HDD.

Not sure if that makes the 120GB HDD seem way overpriced by comparison or if it just makes the Natal kit seem more valuable instead if the $150 add on kit price is true. 

Presumably there will also be a bundle to include a HDD (maybe 250GB instead of 120GB) for an additional $100 at $399?

But this is all just speculation until MS releases the official SKU/pricing info.