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carlos710 on 29 November 2007
sinha said:
carlos710 said:


Perhaps ioi should lower the totals for 360 sales.



Uhhh, what??

Edit: Seriously, can you explain this? Microsoft claims 360 sales were over 50k higher than the vgchartz estimation, therefore ioi should lower the 360 totals? How the hell does that make any sense?


Because NPD monthly data is always lower than vgchartz for x360. ioi accepted that he wants to overtrack the xbox compared to NPD.

However i have to say that i trust more NPD



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mrstickball on 29 November 2007

Arcade is selling out? Nice! Seems that the MS Casual dept. is working finally!

MS bringing competitiveness back to the USA FTW!



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DarkNight_DS on 29 November 2007
naznatips said:
sinha said:
DarkNight_DS said:
Apparently they are also saying that software sales last week for the 360 were equal to both Wii and PS3 software combined. Anyone want to figure that one out?

See my post above.


You realize though that even if Microsoft got these "retail estimates" even taking out Wii Sports and Wii Play that would be nowhere near an accurate statement.


I guess they must have removed Links crossbow training and if they used NPD's data... well we know they have no more Toys R Us data which anyone can see by going inside a Toys R Us paints a much different picture then what NPD might have possibly leaked out.

EDIT: This looks like a Microsoft shipment list to retailers...  It looks like a bunch of BS now... 



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celine on 29 November 2007

Isn't funny that a VGC poster a few day ago opened a thread about MS being quietly about 360 sales ?



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naznatips on 29 November 2007
DarkNight_DS said:
naznatips said:
sinha said:
DarkNight_DS said:
Apparently they are also saying that software sales last week for the 360 were equal to both Wii and PS3 software combined. Anyone want to figure that one out?

See my post above.


You realize though that even if Microsoft got these "retail estimates" even taking out Wii Sports and Wii Play that would be nowhere near an accurate statement.


 I guess they must have removed Links crossbow training and if they used NPD's data... well we know they have no more Toys R Us data which anyone can see by going inside a Toys R Us paints a much different picture then what NPD might have possibly leaked out.


I suppose it's possible that these are based on NPD data.  It could explain Nintendo's lower estimates as well... I'm not sure though.  I want to know where these retail sources are.



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sinha on 29 November 2007
naznatips said:
sinha said:
DarkNight_DS said:
Apparently they are also saying that software sales last week for the 360 were equal to both Wii and PS3 software combined. Anyone want to figure that one out?

See my post above.


You realize though that even if Microsoft got these "retail estimates" even taking out Wii Sports and Wii Play that would be nowhere near an accurate statement.


Do you mean that Microsoft's statement based on retail estimes would be nowhere near accurate or that the weekly estimations from vgchartz based on ioi's sources would be nowhere near accurate? 

Are you really saying Microsoft's numbers are less accurate than vgchartz? 

 

Because in response to that I must quote ioi, specifically about Black Friday sales:

"Wow, we screwed up bigtime this week !!

Looks like Black Friday, regional bias, store bias, sales etc skewed our data to the extent that it was miles off.

Seems we need to increase our data sources... "

 



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FishyJoe on 29 November 2007

I wonder if Sony feels pressured to release real numbers? Or will they continue to release vague percentages?



Spectrumglr on 29 November 2007
carlos710 said:
I would be surprised if this site undertracked the 360 for once. ioi has accepted that he actually overtracks them (vs NPD).

Perhaps ioi should lower the totals for 360 sales.



that's another case of selective memory: in august and september VGCHARTZ was undertracking the x360...and actually the only time that X360 numbers were overtracked by VGCHARTZ and NOT COMPLETELY adjusted after NPD report was October...



2008 year end sales (made in January 2008):

44.2 M 27.1 M 20.8 M

DarkNight_DS on 29 November 2007

Once again... numbers most likely based on Shipments to retailers...



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carlos710 on 29 November 2007
Spectrumglr said:
carlos710 said:
I would be surprised if this site undertracked the 360 for once. ioi has accepted that he actually overtracks them (vs NPD).

Perhaps ioi should lower the totals for 360 sales.



that's another case of selective memory: in august and september VGCHARTZ was undertracking the x360...and actually the only time that X360 numbers were overtracked by VGCHARTZ and NOT COMPLETELY adjusted after NPD report was October...


 Undertracked by 20k. Not overtracked by 150k



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