RolStoppable said:
Porcupine_I said:
RolStoppable said:
That right there is the baffling thing. Despite Sony themselves clearly stating that they are going after the Wii market and their games supporting this statement, some Sony fans are still in denial.
No, I don't demand everyone to say that Sony is following Nintendo, I just want people to stop claiming that Sony isn't following Nintendo because that is not true at all. See the post above yours, that's what I am speaking of.
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yes, you already made it clear what you want, but you should realize it is not going to happen, because for every reasonable fan there are at least a dozen unreasonable ones. i suppose you know that, but will it stop you from arguing?
but that aside, the problem is also in the details.
"Sony follows Nintendo" is a very general statement that people might be able to agree on, but what does it mean to the individual? Does it mean Sony has seen the casual trend towards motion control and developed their own version, or does it mean, they just "blatantly" copied the wiimote? Both statements could be regard as "not true at all" it only depends on your point of view.
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I stayed out of Move threads since quite some time now, precisely because I know that it's just going to be same thing all over again. Some people choose what they want to believe even if the evidence presented to them goes against this belief, like Sony's very own statements.
You were asking the question what would Nintendo fans make stop posting in every Move thread and I gave you an answer why Move even became such a bid deal despite a clear lack of interest for the Move's games from pretty much all sides. The main problem was and is not Sony making a product with games that look a lot like the Wii, it's the double standards that are thrown around by some Sony fans. On one hand they argue that Move is not a copy only to then go into a Natal thread and call it a copy of Sony's Eyetoy. Or how motion controls are good to have now, but previously weren't.
This problem isn't going to go anytime soon, if ever. It can be ignored, but that doesn't mean it will go away. And for that reason most Move threads are bound to degenerate into a "copy or not a copy" debate. Although that's only going to be a real problem for those people who actually want to discuss the Move's games which, judging by amount of posts of the official thread, aren't that many.
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You say "some people choose what they want to believe", and right after that you state that there is "a clear lack of interest for the Move's games" which i find interesting, as someone else might choose to believe that "it is useless to discuss games or controllers that aren't released yet" or maybe "the threads are relatively short because some people know they would get banned for derailing them"
So many things to choose from.
But i agree with you, the problem won't go away anytime soon.
Your last sentence is interesting too though, because the way you worded it i could choose to believe that you are blaming the Nintendo fans to be the "problem" of the people who want to discuss the Move's games. Or what else could you mean?
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
- George Orwell, ‘1984’
