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dahuman on 18 May 2010
theARTIST0017 said:
axumblade said:
ph4nt said:
axumblade said:

I think Reggie is the worst for Nintendo PR. But other then saying he didn't see any reason for the PSP-Go, I can't think of anything major he's said. I think he just strikes me as arrogant in comparison to anyone else I hear anything about from Nintendo.

Well, he was most definitely correct about the PSP GO.

Maybe to you. e.e

and me . . .

he was definitely correct about the PSP GO, I have a 2001 and 3001 and I have 0 desire for a GO, it's pointless.



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Wildchild_cob29 on 18 May 2010
forest-spirit said:
morenoingrato said:
I remember when they has a week of poor sales Iwata said wii failed in japan

Nintendo trash talking confirmed! To bad they trash talk themselves more than the competition.

I think that's why they are so good at what they do by constantly challenging themselves.

I do the same on guitar



STEKSTAV on 19 May 2010
Sempuukyaku said:
jneul said:
when they said apple was their new enemy and the sony-ninty battle was over, i think they are getting a bit big headed and need to be careful..

 

That quote was NEVER UTTERED...EVER. Unless you have a real verifiable QUOTE from anyone at Nintendo saying that, this needs to be thrown into the trash. 

Nintendo is feeling pretty confident about their current position in the market, with the report noting that Iwata feels as if the "battle with Sony" is a "victory already won," and that Apple is the one that should now be treated as the "enemy of the future."



Gintoki on 19 May 2010
SaviorX said:

I know some Nintendo of Europe guy said something dumb (the geeks and otakus thing but nothing else was memorable....except for the first 5 seconds, of this:

 

this was epic ;p



hsrob on 19 May 2010
STEKSTAV said:
Sempuukyaku said:
jneul said:
when they said apple was their new enemy and the sony-ninty battle was over, i think they are getting a bit big headed and need to be careful..

 

That quote was NEVER UTTERED...EVER. Unless you have a real verifiable QUOTE from anyone at Nintendo saying that, this needs to be thrown into the trash. 

Nintendo is feeling pretty confident about their current position in the market, with the report noting that Iwata feels as if the "battle with Sony" is a "victory already won," and that Apple is the one that should now be treated as the "enemy of the future."

This is not a veriable quote, what's the source?  The only 'source' that I have seen for this says something like "it is reported Iwata said...........".

I don't personally care whether he said it or not but, for the sake of accuracy, if we are going to start flaming certain people for trash talking and being arrogant etc. a proper quote and source would be nice.



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STEKSTAV on 19 May 2010
hsrob said:
STEKSTAV said:
Sempuukyaku said:
jneul said:
when they said apple was their new enemy and the sony-ninty battle was over, i think they are getting a bit big headed and need to be careful..

 

That quote was NEVER UTTERED...EVER. Unless you have a real verifiable QUOTE from anyone at Nintendo saying that, this needs to be thrown into the trash. 

Nintendo is feeling pretty confident about their current position in the market, with the report noting that Iwata feels as if the "battle with Sony" is a "victory already won," and that Apple is the one that should now be treated as the "enemy of the future."

This is not a veriable quote, what's the source?  The only 'source' that I have seen for this says something like "it is reported Iwata said...........".

I don't personally care whether he said it or not but, for the sake of accuracy, if we are going to start flaming certain people for trash talking and being arrogant etc. a proper quote and source would be nice.

You can google "battle with sony is over" - or "apple enemy of the future".



milkyjoe on 19 May 2010
STEKSTAV said:
hsrob said:
STEKSTAV said:
Sempuukyaku said:
jneul said:
when they said apple was their new enemy and the sony-ninty battle was over, i think they are getting a bit big headed and need to be careful..

 

That quote was NEVER UTTERED...EVER. Unless you have a real verifiable QUOTE from anyone at Nintendo saying that, this needs to be thrown into the trash. 

Nintendo is feeling pretty confident about their current position in the market, with the report noting that Iwata feels as if the "battle with Sony" is a "victory already won," and that Apple is the one that should now be treated as the "enemy of the future."

This is not a veriable quote, what's the source?  The only 'source' that I have seen for this says something like "it is reported Iwata said...........".

I don't personally care whether he said it or not but, for the sake of accuracy, if we are going to start flaming certain people for trash talking and being arrogant etc. a proper quote and source would be nice.

You can google "battle with sony is over" - or "apple enemy of the future".

Journalists putting quotation marks around random words doesn't make it true, because anyone can play that game, and it's one of the oldest tabloid tricks around... 'A source close to xxx says' 'A report suggests xxx has said that' etc etc. If it had any truth in it then they would have given a direct quote rather than use that old trick. I'll even try it right now.

Nintendo sources say "we're going to use all our profits to buy a giant death ray."

Microsoft sources say "we could give you Live for free but we like free money."

Sony sources say "we're basing this game on actual historical events. Here's this giant enemy crab, you can attack its weak point for massive damage."



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c0rd on 19 May 2010
.jayderyu said:
STEKSTAV said:
- "Apple isnt a viable gaming platform"

- “I have doubts whether people will be wearing glasses to play games at home. How is that going to look to other people?”

- "I've been very intrigued with Little Big Planet (from Sony). I don't know that it belongs on their platform."

- "New Super Mario Wii will outsell MW2"

- "I think we would have been embarrassed to do what our competitors are currently doing,"

- “Looking at what PlayStation is doing, it feels very ‘Wii-too’”, he told the LA Times. “In terms of Microsoft, we'll see when they actually show off their software. I think our competitors will be challenged in a number of ways: bringing fun experiences to life, because in the end that's what the consumer wants."

- Nintendo Wii: Reggie Claims No One With A Wii Would Buy PlayStation Move

- "After 52 months in the market, the installed base of the DS in the U.S. is larger than the installed base of the PlayStation 2, at the same time frame"

- "Having talked to a lot of consumers in our market, the consumer wants to pay just once for their overall experience. I’ve heard complaints when consumers buy maps or extra levels. From a Nintendo perspective, we believe selling a game that is fair to the consumer and charging them once instead of multiple times is the best business model."

- "More and more retailers are experimenting with the used game model. We don’t believe used games are in the best interest of the consumer. We have products that consumers want to hold onto. They want to play all of the levels of a Zelda game and unlock all of the levels. A game like Personal Trainer Cooking has a long life. We believe used games aren’t in the consumer’s best interes"

Yes, an awesome list of the "smack talk" Nintendo has done. Though some of them aren't.

1. Apple is a company, but in context. This isn't smack talk, it's stupidity. It's like saying the PC isn't a viable gaming platform. iSeries uses the PC process of movement. Start technical move to other areas.

3. He actually admits it's a good game, but Sony has gone gung ho for action, shooters and other violent games. I'ts like saying Seseme street shouldn't be on the PS2 because it was the hardcore machine last gen. oh wait.....

4. That's just disgusting smack talk right there. Not only are walking the walk, they are insulting and doing bragging rights before the games came out. This is just bad behaviour as anything the others have given out even worse in some cases. booooo reggie, boooo.

7. Come on Nintendo this is a bit insulting isn't it. Do you really need to be poor winners?

1. I'd agree with this one being pretty silly.

3. He spoke on LBP before, I'm pretty sure this quote was meant to be along the same lines. The older one read like this:
"That product, I think, is quite intriguing. I'm not sure how well it will do on the Sony platform, quite frankly, but I think that the product they showed was outstanding."

4. This really wasn't smack talk. Have you seen the interview? It was just a friendly bet he made with Geoff Keighly (who kind of goaded him into it, anyway). Not to mention what he said immediately after when asked if it would be close (in sales):
"Sure it's going to be close," he said. "Modern Warfare's a great title. As a gamer, I look forward to it."

7. That was just the catchy headline, what he said was reasonable. See this (it's Reggie's first paragraph)



mike_intellivision on 19 May 2010
Doobie_wop said:
puffy said:
Doobie_wop said:
The unveiling of the new Apple iPad earlier this week has a lot of people excited. Nintendo president Satoru Iwata is not one of them.

“It was a bigger iPod Touch”, Iwata told Associated Press, adding that the new device offered “no surprises”.

The Nintendo president was equally down on the recent enthusiasm over 3D technology, saying “I have doubts whether people will be wearing glasses to play games at home. How is that going to look to other people?”

I don’t know. How does shouting/blowing into a handheld on the train make you look?

His buzz-killing didn’t stop there, either, responding to questions about motion-sensing handhelds and high definition Wiis with “I question whether those features would be enough to get people to buy new machines”.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/01/nintendo-president-pooh-poohs-apple-ipad-3d-technology/

I don't think his opinion on the matter is needed and his stab at Sony was obviously to self promote his own product. I'd also like to point out that I've heard Microsoft and Sony also say good stuff about the competition, I haven't heard the same from Nintendo.

You don't think his opinion was needed? So what do you think he just called a press conference to mention these things? No it was an interview and he was asked directly. He was right too you know, iPad is just a big iPod Touch and all of it's features were already basically known. With 3D, there are already people saying they'll wait for glasses-less 3DTV's before they jump in, even on this very website!

Also Reggie recently said that he liked what Microsoft were doing with XBOX LIVE so.. Yeah they have complimented their competitors.

He could have just passed the question along or answered without insulting his competitors, he responded like that only because he had the 3DS in mind and wanted to downplay his 3D competitor and his handheld competitor. Plenty of the thing's Sony and Microsoft have said are true when attacking their competitors, it doesn't make it any less rude. I'm just trying to point out that Nintendo aren't the saint's that the fans seem to think they are.

I would be very careful in citing Kotaku as a source to show Nintendo "trash talking."

Kotaku is not the most kind to Nintendo, so any opportunity to present the company or its products (or both) in a bad light is generally exploited by the website. 

Please note that I am not saying the quotes listed are inaccurate. However, the paragraphs linking them are far more derogatory than the text itself. 

In other words, Kotaku may be taking disconnected quotes and setting them in a context that is not entirely accurate.

 

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redspear on 19 May 2010
Doobie_wop said:
redspear said:

He was asked a question he answered it. For the most part he is largely correct. The media has hyped up the iPad as a revolution and the hype machine was building for innovation. Instead they show the iPad something that will appeal to many people but after E3 was clear was not revolutionary.

He also attacked glasses I can't even get people to put glasses on for nVidia Vision(I use them). That said glasses make images darker(even in the movie theater you are losing at least 50 percent light because of the polarized filters over your eyes and the shutter(home) system does not do better in this regard.

 

Sony and MS would not of backed down, Steve Jobs would not of backed down from such a question and if you don't believe type in Flash Steve Jobs. So you expect Nintendo to. They gave an opinion the opinion makes sense. You do not have to agree with it. even if you like Nintnedo you do not have to agree with them all of the time. Just like if you like Sony/MS you don't ave to agree with them all of the time.

Then the thread is pointless and you also back's up what I said before, all companies can say negative thing's about their competitors and it really shouldn't matter. When company's compete in the same market, I expect them to trash talk and despite if the statement was true in the guy's 'opinion' it still should be labeled as trash talk. I'm just trying to exempt Nintendo from this godly status a lot of people seemed to give them recently, even though they have been the most arrogant in the later part of this gen. 

No trash talk is not an opinion. Trash talk is saying something about a competitor that is meant to cover your own weaknesses. For instance Only kids or grannies buy Nintendo is trash talk it is not based on fact and it is not the grounds of opinions since the facts are researchable in that case Saying motion controls are a fad is not trash talk. Saying waggle controls make you look like an idiot is. You might think they are the same one is attacking the people who use it the other is an pinion of what they see the future is. 

You don't expect companies to say nice things about other companies. However trash talk is more then just expressing an opinion. However if you drink the Kool Aid of Company X then trash talk doesn't seem like that.