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Is there any difference outside of the fact that in Beat Em Ups, you use your bear hands primarily and in Hack and Slash games you use a sword or axe or something primarily.

 

Back in the days of 2D... there were only Beat em Ups.  (to my knowledge.)  Stuff like Golden Axe was specifically called a Beat em up.

 

Now stuff like Dante's Inferno, God of War, Dynasty Warriors... all Hack and Slash.

 

Is the Fist of the North Star Dynasty Warriors game a Beat em up just because Kenshiro uses his fists?    If not... well why not?  Why would it have been seen as a Hack and Slash if it showed up before Dynasty Warriors?



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"Hack and slash" term originates from pnp RPG culture and was carried over to computer video game culture, primaly to games like Diablo and forthcoming Action-RPGs. Eventually any RPG elements were washed out and a lot of this type of games came from p'n'c, turn-based type of comabt to action-oriented with very shallow RPG elements if any (some basic leveling and limited inventory). While "beat 'em up" was used in regard to arcade fighting games, that includes both versus fighting games and Golden Axe type games initially, but now the term "beat 'em ups" is rarely used to describe versus fighting gameplay.

Today all these games convergent just like animal species in nature due to common conditions though originates from different subsultures (they're basicaly appealing to the same type of gamer), so there're no to little systematic difference in them nowadays. Additionally I believe there were yet another stream of games that contributed to the genre, that originates from console and computer type of action-adventure games (i.e. Zelda-type adventures and early Rare games on C64 and Spectrum respectively) that shifted to action heavily (God of War like games).

 

Of course, you still can divide these type of games into beat'em up and slasher groups judging by the fact do they use a weapon system of any kind. By weapon system I mean actual difference in using different type of weapons in tactical sense depending on situation with no straightforward route of upgrade and gameplay that emphasize on collecting of these weapons (Monster Hunter type of games, countless MMOs), beat 'em ups even those with weapons usualy don't have any of these gameplay elements.



The only games in both genres that I've ever fallen in love with are the Streets of Rage series, Dynamite Cop and Bayonetta.



I thought the difference was this...

Beat 'em Ups - You primarily use your fists, and hit one person at a time in a more controlled fashion.

Hack and Slash - You primarily use a weapon of some kind, and hit multiple people at a time in a crazy fashion.



                            

Kasz216 said:

Is there any difference outside of the fact that in Beat Em Ups, you use your bear hands

I don't really know how to articulate the difference between the two. I guess it's kind of like pornography; I know it when I see it, and then I get all messy.



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Well there's not that much beat em ups. There are a lot of hack and slash which are great.



 

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I always thought hack and slash was stuff like Gauntlet or Diablo where you can level up abilities and you have like magic attacks and there's light RPG elements. You might have to solve puzzles or collect items to get to new levels.

Beat-em-ups to me are games where you beat up groups of AI opponents at a time and that's pretty much the only gameplay mechanic. There's no real exploration and all progression is tied to just killing everyone on the current screen/arena and moving on to the next one.



http://www.gametrailers.com/video/molten-core-world-of/32441

That is a hack-n-slash.