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M$ and hte Xbox brand is in such a strong position right now...the platform is making money, and 3rd party games have better ROI. In general, any non-Japanese third party publisher going exclusive might be leaving money on the table, but going ps3 only is tanamount ot insanity.



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darthdevidem01 said:
Didn't Rockstar themselves said somewhere that it was gonna be a timed PS3 exclusive, but Ken Kutaragi said they didn't need it as a timed exclusive & his arrogance made them make it multiplat. (basically back in the day when everyone in the press was flaming kutaragi this news story came up).

i can recall reading on the ps website ages ago, that exclusivity was offered to sony but they turned it down as it wouldnt have made business sence.

so i think it was always planned to be on 360 since then, the 50$million howerver was for timed exclusive of the dlc packs,



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enrageorange said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
themanwithnoname said:
Well, it sold more on 360, so a PS3 timed exclusive would've been a rather dumb idea.


i'd haft to disagree! GTA was synonymous with the PS brand. so in saying that GTA 4 would have sold more on PS3 and sold some consoles as well. thinking that gamers would not have none if it were coming out on 360 some if not most would have bought a PS3 and we would be having a different discussion right now.


so your thinking that most of the 7.7million people who bought gta4 for the 360 would have bought a ps3 if it was exclusive. Im sorry but thats just ridiculous. Ether way Microsoft won't be having to pay them off again for gta5 unless they want a timed exlusive seeing how the game is now more popular on the 360.

And whats with the sony has a better relationship with rockstar. What are they doing, dating? Rockstar doesn't give a crap about relationships, it just cares about who makes them the most money.


yan! i could bring up LBP and the fact some people say it was a failure because it didn't do what people thought it would. remember this. before the exclusive deal with microsoft. GTA was big on PS3. if you like this franchise then you buy the console that has it. it's that simple. so your arguement is weak.



themanwithnoname said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
themanwithnoname said:
Well, it sold more on 360, so a PS3 timed exclusive would've been a rather dumb idea.


i'd haft to disagree! GTA was synonymous with the PS brand. so in saying that GTA 4 would have sold more on PS3 and sold some consoles as well. thinking that gamers would not have none if it were coming out on 360 some if not most would have bought a PS3 and we would be having a different discussion right now.


I don't get what you're arguing here. If I'm Rockstar, why do I care about selling PS3's? Why wouldn't I have my game on a console with a larger userbase? Why would I take a timed exclusive deal and dig into my own sales?


because the fan base was on the PS brand. not knowing how it would be received on another platform would be the reason for this. and from what i can tell the 360 exclusive GTA4 DLC didn't make taketwo any money. (atlease thats what i heard/read) you drive a good point but thinking out side the box. and yes i do know that GTA games came out on the original xbox. now this might look like back tracking. but to show you that it works either way.

GTA was synonymous with the xbox brand. so in saying that GTA 4 would have sold more on xbox and sold some consoles as well. thinking that gamers would not have none if it were coming out on PS3 some if not most would have bought a 360 and we would be having a different discussion right now.

 

besides. till this day i've never played a GTA game on a PS platform! be shocked.



Is it all about the money though...Some developers do care about their work being 'groundbreaking' and staying fresh. Do you think Take-two wants to upset the Housers and watch another IW scenario unfold - you can bet they have a say in things.

Good move? I can't say.. it opens the door for companies to extort Microsoft with a figure that big. If you have a big franchise, make it ps3 exclusve and wait for MS to pay up. I seriously doubt Microsoft made a penny off GTAVI/Ep. from lib city, with that kind of deal they forfeited all profits from the game or barely broke even. You got to wonder if Microsoft is in this business to destroy Sony - they don't seem to care what Nintendo does.

Exclusives are much better than Multiplats in my opinion because the developers can take advantage of the hardware, especially on PS3 - paying that much to dumb down a game is a loss for gamers - not a win unless you're casual and can only want one system.

Since they paid 75mil for GTAIV, there will likely be a bidding war between Sony and MS on GTAV (or probably has taken place), and one which Sony can get away with a much lower figure, and if Sony loses it only goes multiplatform. There is probably a reason LA NOIRE hasn't officially announced it's platform yet, and it is tied to the same type of thing. Putting a blue-ray drive in the console does have it's hidden back room benefits.



 

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Why would making GTA a PS3 exclusive be a bad idea? Releasing it on the 360 made GTA IV SOOO BAD it ruined its image. Just like MW, MW1 gave the Call of Duty franchise a good image, MW2 ruined it and so MW3 will sell less then MW2 b/c of the destroyed image. Another example? Releasing XIII on the 360. nuf said



heruamon said:
GTA on the 360 outsold the PS3 by a LARGE margin...so why would TTWO make it exclusive to PS3...how does that make any sense? What's the sked for Agent again...


thats what they were going to before Microsoft made them a offer they couldn't refuse.



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enrageorange said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
themanwithnoname said:
Well, it sold more on 360, so a PS3 timed exclusive would've been a rather dumb idea.


i'd haft to disagree! GTA was synonymous with the PS brand. so in saying that GTA 4 would have sold more on PS3 and sold some consoles as well. thinking that gamers would not have none if it were coming out on 360 some if not most would have bought a PS3 and we would be having a different discussion right now.


so your thinking that most of the 7.7million people who bought gta4 for the 360 would have bought a ps3 if it was exclusive. Im sorry but thats just ridiculous. Ether way Microsoft won't be having to pay them off again for gta5 unless they want a timed exlusive seeing how the game is now more popular on the 360.

And whats with the sony has a better relationship with rockstar. What are they doing, dating? Rockstar doesn't give a crap about relationships, it just cares about who makes them the most money.


didn't san andreas sell like 14 or more million units on PS2. why wouldn't they make it exclusive to PS3?



themanwithnoname said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
themanwithnoname said:
Well, it sold more on 360, so a PS3 timed exclusive would've been a rather dumb idea.


i'd haft to disagree! GTA was synonymous with the PS brand. so in saying that GTA 4 would have sold more on PS3 and sold some consoles as well. thinking that gamers would not have none if it were coming out on 360 some if not most would have bought a PS3 and we would be having a different discussion right now.


I don't get what you're arguing here. If I'm Rockstar, why do I care about selling PS3's? Why wouldn't I have my game on a console with a larger userbase? Why would I take a timed exclusive deal and dig into my own sales?


besides it would not have happend if microsoft wouldn't have paid for it!