he´s more into action, fps, and rpg games. he is wondering if it is worth for him. he IS kind of interested after he saw red steel 2, but he hated the wii before. so I dont know

Obscure analogy? Other than one of the films is very recent and very popular, and another is oscar winning? Uhuh.....Think you need to pop your head out of the metaphorical basement.
I'll put the example another way. Which is better:
A childs finger painting of his family
            or
The Mona Lisa

Now the kid and his parent are going to enjoy the former more than the latter. Does that make it the better piece of work?

What I'm saying is that look at what makes a game good. Just because someone says it's fun doesn't mean it is good. Golden Eye WAS fun, but compared to all the other FPS' out there, it's jizz. The same has been said about Perfect Dark on XBL, that it's only really meant for nostalgia.

If you like hardcore titles, the wii is certianly not made for you. Out of the hardcore genres, either the 360 or PS3 have the leading titles. The wii is a party machine and offers a much more simplified gaming experience. Something like Murasma is outdone by other slash 'em up games like Bayonetta etc. The latter is far harder, and therefore longer lifespan/more interesting, to anyone who has a back history of playing games, as in a hardcore/seasoned gamer.

Again...it all just comes back to the thing you're not understanding from my first post.  What makes Muramasa equivilant to a 'childs finger painting' just because you think God of War is 'The Mona Lisa'?  Seriously, you're the prime example of why some people don't like Wii games just because there's other games with flashier graphics and more hype put behind them.

And the hillarous thing is, in 5 years, I can make the same analogy you just made for some new game on the next set of 'HD' systems and you'll think some other game makes God of War 3 look like a 'childs finger painting'.  That's the problem with only looking at games based on hype and graphics.  And this completely vague and totally opinionated term of 'hardcore'.

Because Muramasa is piss easy as it's 2D when compared to Bayonetta, that is why. Also the AI is going to be generations behind anything on the 360 etc. Again, that makes the game less of a challenge, and also less intuitive.

Look at it like this: If i've gone and butched DMC 1 - 3 on PS2, mastered them etc, then you dump me infront of God of War 3/Bayonetta etc, then I'm going to have a new challenge as the experience has improved. If you dumped me infront of Murasma, everything has become far easier, and easy = boring for anyone who is a hardcore gamer.

Yeah, you are right. In 5 years God of War 3 will be awful compared to what is on the market because as technology becomes better, gamers expectations increase. I'm looking at games in respect to everything out there on the market - you aren't, you are creating some abstract way of saying something is great without comparing it to other games in the genre.

Hardcore gamer = plays games for entertainment often and doesn't have the mental capacity of a gold fish, and so like's a constantly increasing challenge.
Geek/Nerd = plays games for entertainment often

It's like you really don't know that people can value different things in games. Personally, I who hated the God of War/DMC style of play really found Muramasa enjoyable.

Because Muramasa is piss easy as it's 2D when compared to Bayonetta, that is why. Also the AI is going to be generations behind anything on the 360 etc. Again, that makes the game less of a challenge, and also less intuitive.

Look at it like this: If i've gone and butched DMC 1 - 3 on PS2, mastered them etc, then you dump me infront of God of War 3/Bayonetta etc, then I'm going to have a new challenge as the experience has improved. If you dumped me infront of Murasma, everything has become far easier, and easy = boring for anyone who is a hardcore gamer.

Yeah, you are right. In 5 years God of War 3 will be awful compared to what is on the market because as technology becomes better, gamers expectations increase. I'm looking at games in respect to everything out there on the market - you aren't, you are creating some abstract way of saying something is great without comparing it to other games in the genre.

Hardcore gamer = plays games for entertainment often and doesn't have the mental capacity of a gold fish, and so like's a constantly increasing challenge.
Geek/Nerd = plays games for entertainment often

More that hardcore and casual gamers enjoy different things. For the hardcore gamer, the wii isn't a justifiable purchase.

Enjoy hating all the games you once loved just because you feel you have to hate something to like something more.  You even admit you'll evnetually dislike God of War 3.  Guess what.  Games from the past aren't bad just because they're old.  And games can be good just because they don't have the pinnacle of 'technology' and 'graphics'.  You think people like Mario 3 or Final Fantasy VII or Pokemon because they have amazing graphics or are on the most recent hardware?  Come on, they like them because they're good games.  And on the same token, people like Muramasa, because it was FUN.  Either you accept it, or continue you're crusade to prove that Muramasa is inferior simply because its on 'inferior hardware'.  Which I can guarantee, is a losing battle, as all the games I just mentioned were also on the 'inferior system' when they released.

And you seem to be overlooking the countless times people have been saying they thought God of War 3 was easy or boring.  Just because YOU thought it was the pinnacle of gaming doesn't mean EVERYONE ELSE thought it was.  I don't know how many times I need to express this to you.  Just because you think something is 'hardcore' doesn't make it so.  And the sad thing is, you're trying to force that opinion so much, you're blind to the multiple people in this thread who already expressed they didn't agree.