NKAJ said:
As far as i know,the quran isnt any better,pehaps you could link me some of this evidence? But i mean to deny evoloution because you have a 1400 year old book seems slightly odd.I mean we are talking about scientific facts,you can choose to believe some holy person caused evoloution or not but neverless the fact remains. |
Safari doesn't let me copy and paste on VGC but you can easily Youtube it by typing in "quran scientific miracles"
Kantor said:
1) We're talking about them now, and we're not dead, are we? Plenty of people "believe" in the Illuminati and argue for their existence. Surely all of these people should be dead, Illuminati or not? And I'm no expert on Christianity, but doesn't Satan hate humanity? 2) People are already free to think. Just the fact that you're currently thinking about the Illuminati despite a raging war in the Middle East shows that what you're saying is ridiculous. 3) 2.2 billion, all Christians should really be praying every day, and asking for forgiveness when they do so. People of other religions pray to their own God(s), and atheists like myself don't pray at all because we don't believe in the existence of any gods. If I don't believe in Christ, he can't save me (in theory; if he really loved humanity as he claims, he would save everyone, whether or not they worshipped him) so by that same logic, the anti-Christ and Satan can't harm me. If they do both happen to be real, Christ is almost certainly more powerful. And if you're a Christian, and you believe in the Illuminati, why the hell don't you pray every day? Really, from what you're telling me, pray every day and you're fine. "Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us". |
1. Its ok if we talk about them because people will say were crazy or something like that, but if someone who has power and a sign of respect talks about them and reveals shit then they will die. If they killed every single person that talks about them then we would know for sure that they exist. There really smart.
2. No there not, people are to busy with being entertained to do real shit. TV,Games, Music and sex are all distractions that every human goes through on a daily basis.
3. They should but they really dont, only the hardcore christans pray every day. Why would god save someone who doesnt believe in him? God has shown us love and we dont return it. On another note, someone who i was talking to on here (forgot their name) was saying that alien abductions only happen to people that are not christan.
sabby_e17 said:
Safari doesn't let me copy and paste on VGC but you can easily Youtube it by typing in "quran scientific miracles" |
ok,im just gonna say before hand(before i watch the videos) that i doubt the quran really does have scientific evidence,otherwise woudnt scientists spend time believing and studying the quran?
"They will know heghan belongs to the helghast"
"England expects that everyman will do his duty"
"we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender"
sabby_e17 said:
Safari doesn't let me copy and paste on VGC but you can easily Youtube it by typing in "quran scientific miracles" |
I looked up for quran scientific miracles.All of the websites that mentioned the quran containing scienific miracles were islamic.Out of the facts iv seen,all were either disuputed by actual science or the refernce from the quran was so vague that it could have ment a dozen things.For example,there was a article explaining that the quran actually predicted modern radar technology,how? Thiese next few quotes from the quran are supposdly evidence.
We gave Dawud great favor from Us: 'O mountains and birds! echo with him in his praise!' And We made iron malleable for him: (Surah Saba', 10)
We gave Sulayman understanding of it. We gave each of them judgment and knowledge. We subjected the mountains to Dawud, glorifying, and the birds as well. This is something We are well able to do. (Surat al-Anbiya', 79)
So We subjected the wind to him to blow at his command, softly, wherever he directed. (Surah Sâd, 36)
Now no offence,but for me this is simply way too vague and it looks like they are clutching at straws here.
"They will know heghan belongs to the helghast"
"England expects that everyman will do his duty"
"we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender"
| Khuutra said: Kantor I think that it might be better not to pursue this further than you have to |
I was going to stop when all of these people realised how ridiculous they sound, but I now realise that there's no way in hell that's happening, so I give up.
Fear the big scary evil Satanists if you like. I'll carry on in the knowledge that they pose us no threat.
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NKAJ said:
I looked up for quran scientific miracles.All of the websites that mentioned the quran containing scienific miracles were islamic.Out of the facts iv seen,all were either disuputed by actual science or the refernce from the quran was so vague that it could have ment a dozen things.For example,there was a article explaining that the quran actually predicted modern radar technology,how? Thiese next few quotes from the quran are supposdly evidence. We gave Dawud great favor from Us: 'O mountains and birds! echo with him in his praise!' And We made iron malleable for him: (Surah Saba', 10) We gave Sulayman understanding of it. We gave each of them judgment and knowledge. We subjected the mountains to Dawud, glorifying, and the birds as well. This is something We are well able to do. (Surat al-Anbiya', 79) So We subjected the wind to him to blow at his command, softly, wherever he directed. (Surah Sâd, 36) Now no offence,but for me this is simply way too vague and it looks like they are clutching at straws here. |
Don't want to get into a debate here, but try searching on youtube, the scientists who converted to islam, and embryology and other facts that are easier to understand.
| Khuutra said: Kantor I think that it might be better not to pursue this further than you have to |
It's as if you've had a recent expierence with a thread going a few hundred posts too long because someone wanted to believe something just because they wanted to believe it. 
sabby_e17 said:
Don't want to get into a debate here, but try searching on youtube, the scientists who converted to islam, and embryology and other facts that are easier to understand. |
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