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Porcupine_I on 25 April 2010

well, my opinion on this game is this:

do i think its a good game? YES

would i buy a Wii for this game? NO

would i buy the game for my PS3? YES


The same goes for Dead Space: Extraction, and MadWorld



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

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jarrod on 26 April 2010
greenmedic88 said:
jarrod said:
greenmedic88 said:
When a port of a 2 year old game sells better than the original did, that means something. I won't venture to say what it means, but generally speaking, that's not normal.

Indeed!

 

[PS2] Monster Hunter G (Capcom) 232,239

[Wii] Monster Hunter G (Capcom) 236,020

 

 

...clearly, this must mean something!

Monster Hunter IS better suited for the Wii market.

By the same assessment, games like NMH are better suited for the PS3 and Xbox 360, without even lumping both platforms together and claiming it sold over 2X as much for a 2+ year old game.

Isn't this what most people have been saying here?

At least those who aren't trying to shift the argument to claim that a couple of ports cost more than the original game, making the original a better commercial success, making it better suited for the Wii platform?

And games like Monster Hunter?  High budget, big brand, brutally difficult, densely complex, definitively hardcore, co-op based online games?   Those are inherently better suited to the Wii market?  Really?

As to the rest, I doubt anyone's seriously implying the original was a better commercial success due to Japanese sales.  All I've really seen in here is people with any grasp of reason pointing out that Japanese sales for all versions are pretty pitiful, and alone likely aren't enough to make a return.  I'd say that's a pretty safe guess, despite Grasshopper's notoriously low budgeting or feelplus's sloppily rushed up-ports, whichever ended up being slightly less.



Mr Puggsly on 26 April 2010
jarrod said:
greenmedic88 said:
jarrod said:
greenmedic88 said:
When a port of a 2 year old game sells better than the original did, that means something. I won't venture to say what it means, but generally speaking, that's not normal.

Indeed!

 

[PS2] Monster Hunter G (Capcom) 232,239

[Wii] Monster Hunter G (Capcom) 236,020

 

 

...clearly, this must mean something!

Monster Hunter IS better suited for the Wii market.

By the same assessment, games like NMH are better suited for the PS3 and Xbox 360, without even lumping both platforms together and claiming it sold over 2X as much for a 2+ year old game.

Isn't this what most people have been saying here?

At least those who aren't trying to shift the argument to claim that a couple of ports cost more than the original game, making the original a better commercial success, making it better suited for the Wii platform?

And games like Monster Hunter?  High budget, big brand, brutally difficult, densely complex, definitively hardcore, co-op based online games?   Those are inherently better suited to the Wii market?  Really?

I would say the Wii hardware is better suited for online gaming than the PS2. Considering the Wii comes with networking hardware and data can be saved on SD cards.

It wasn't until 2004 when they made consoles with networking ports but then they removed the friggin hard drive support. Its a shame Sony dropped the ball with Online gaming for the PS2.



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Maynard_Tool on 26 April 2010
Porcupine_I said:
well, my opinion on this game is this:

do i think its a good game? YES

would i buy a Wii for this game? NO

would i buy the game for my PS3? YES


The same goes for Dead Space: Extraction, and MadWorld

This!!!! makes absolutely no sense at all O.o I mean, if it is the same game, why wouldn't you buy it for the wii?

 



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http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=63437&page=1

Mr Puggsly on 26 April 2010
Maynard_Tool said:
Porcupine_I said:
well, my opinion on this game is this:

do i think its a good game? YES

would i buy a Wii for this game? NO

would i buy the game for my PS3? YES


The same goes for Dead Space: Extraction, and MadWorld

This!!!! makes absolutely no sense at all O.o I mean, if it is the same game, why wouldn't you buy it for the wii?

 

Some people don't like the waggle?



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Maynard_Tool on 26 April 2010

Really? Well on the first one, the motion was minimal, I still don't have the second one, so I don't know about that one.

But if the waggle is the problem.... i don't think is a huge deal



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Galaki on 26 April 2010

It's not that they don't like waggle. It's the Wii.



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jarrod on 26 April 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
jarrod said:
greenmedic88 said:
jarrod said:
greenmedic88 said:
When a port of a 2 year old game sells better than the original did, that means something. I won't venture to say what it means, but generally speaking, that's not normal.

Indeed!

 

[PS2] Monster Hunter G (Capcom) 232,239

[Wii] Monster Hunter G (Capcom) 236,020

 

 

...clearly, this must mean something!

Monster Hunter IS better suited for the Wii market.

By the same assessment, games like NMH are better suited for the PS3 and Xbox 360, without even lumping both platforms together and claiming it sold over 2X as much for a 2+ year old game.

Isn't this what most people have been saying here?

At least those who aren't trying to shift the argument to claim that a couple of ports cost more than the original game, making the original a better commercial success, making it better suited for the Wii platform?

And games like Monster Hunter?  High budget, big brand, brutally difficult, densely complex, definitively hardcore, co-op based online games?   Those are inherently better suited to the Wii market?  Really?

I would say the Wii hardware is better suited for online gaming than the PS2. Considering the Wii comes with networking hardware and data can be saved on SD cards.

It wasn't until 2004 when they made consoles with networking ports but then they removed the friggin hard drive support. Its a shame Sony dropped the ball with Online gaming for the PS2.

Monster Hunter doesn't demand mass storage (ie: SD cards, HDDs, etc).  It's dlc (quest, armor, weapons) could've been done easily on PS2 memory cards (and was).  

Monster Hunter also didn't release until 2004, which was when the PS2 started coming with a network adapter built in.



ClaudeLv250 on 26 April 2010

I usually use these threads as an opportunity to rip into people for making stupid posts, but I'm showing mercy today because the situation is just so sad. Japan does not support NMH. You can spin these sales all you want, they ported this game to the supposed super-hardcore platforms, dolled it up and managed to get only a 3k difference per platform despite increased costs and more brand awareness (and this depends on the tracker). It did not outsell the Wii version in total and the first week sales are nothing to write home about if you're not pumped up on fanboy adrenaline.

Fact of the matter is that Japan was never key audience for this series. There's a reason we have NMH2 and they don't. All this says is that Japan is not a healthy market for NMH. You can argue up and down where it "belongs" but this has no impact on anything. Suda wasn't invlved, Grasshopper wasn't involved and a western release hasn't even been announced. If your skin is so deeply infused with irrational bias that a Wiimote burns your hands like acid upon touch, this outcome is only mildly good news to you at best: your only chances of playing any NMH game is a 2 year late port, possibly not even considered for release in your country. For everybody else, they can just buy the game at the source.



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Mr Puggsly on 26 April 2010
jarrod said:
Mr Puggsly said:
jarrod said:
greenmedic88 said:
jarrod said:
greenmedic88 said:
When a port of a 2 year old game sells better than the original did, that means something. I won't venture to say what it means, but generally speaking, that's not normal.

Indeed!

 

[PS2] Monster Hunter G (Capcom) 232,239

[Wii] Monster Hunter G (Capcom) 236,020

 

 

...clearly, this must mean something!

Monster Hunter IS better suited for the Wii market.

By the same assessment, games like NMH are better suited for the PS3 and Xbox 360, without even lumping both platforms together and claiming it sold over 2X as much for a 2+ year old game.

Isn't this what most people have been saying here?

At least those who aren't trying to shift the argument to claim that a couple of ports cost more than the original game, making the original a better commercial success, making it better suited for the Wii platform?

And games like Monster Hunter?  High budget, big brand, brutally difficult, densely complex, definitively hardcore, co-op based online games?   Those are inherently better suited to the Wii market?  Really?

I would say the Wii hardware is better suited for online gaming than the PS2. Considering the Wii comes with networking hardware and data can be saved on SD cards.

It wasn't until 2004 when they made consoles with networking ports but then they removed the friggin hard drive support. Its a shame Sony dropped the ball with Online gaming for the PS2.

Monster Hunter doesn't demand mass storage (ie: SD cards, HDDs, etc).  It's dlc (quest, armor, weapons) could've been done easily on PS2 memory cards (and was).  

Monster Hunter also didn't release until 2004, which was when the PS2 started coming with a network adapter built in.

PS2 memory cards were only like 8MB. You can't keep much DLC or updates in that.

While the PS2 Slims had networking built in, the masses already owned a PS2 fat with no networking built in. To the contrary, every Wii has networking hardware built in.

Ultimately, the Wii was designed for online gaming on day one. The PS2 wasn't. Therefore the Wii is "better suited" for online gaming. That has a lot to do with why Monster Hunter performed better on the Wii.



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