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chocoloco said:
lestatdark said:
chocoloco said:
lestatdark said:
chocoloco said:
Watching my five year old nephew playing better at Manhunt then me. (Sniff) I taught him so much.

And this is why there's so much controversy when games like Manhunt are released. 5 year old's should even't look at this game. 

 

Not if your goal is to raise an assasin!

I know you're trying to be funny and probably you just wanted your nephew to have a good time while gaming with you. 

But these are the cases that then lead to games being discriminated and nitpicked in the social media.

Anyway, i'm not trying to impose anything on you, you do as you see fit. I just think that manhunt isn't a game for five year olds, no matter how "well" they deal with it. Children of that age have no psychological development to discern reality from fiction, so there is no way to determine what he will learn from them.  

Truthfully, he only played the game for a minute and it was a younger brother who gave him the controller, but I dont think that short of exposure would harm a child from such a short experience.  

Yes, adults sould keep very young children from great exposure to such violent games. Yet, the media would complain about certain games just to make an interesting story or arguement to get viewers. They really don't care about the isssue they just want viewers/money.

I am a psychology major and I took developmental psych were they talk of this and I think short exposure leaves little signigficant results to a young developing mind. Still I'm no expert.

We better not seriously derail this guy thread. LOL

It's fine, I like civil discussions so please continue. I personally think that violent video games are the last thing we should worry about, I took my son to see Madagascar..why the hell is the camera focusing on a hippo shaking her ass?



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chocoloco said:
lestatdark said:
chocoloco said:
lestatdark said:
chocoloco said:
Watching my five year old nephew playing better at Manhunt then me. (Sniff) I taught him so much.

And this is why there's so much controversy when games like Manhunt are released. 5 year old's should even't look at this game. 

 

Not if your goal is to raise an assasin!

I know you're trying to be funny and probably you just wanted your nephew to have a good time while gaming with you. 

But these are the cases that then lead to games being discriminated and nitpicked in the social media.

Anyway, i'm not trying to impose anything on you, you do as you see fit. I just think that manhunt isn't a game for five year olds, no matter how "well" they deal with it. Children of that age have no psychological development to discern reality from fiction, so there is no way to determine what he will learn from them.  

Truthfully, he only played the game for a minute and it was a younger brother who gave him the controller, but I dont think that short of exposure would harm a child from such a short experience.  

Yes, adults sould keep very young children from great exposure to such violent games. Yet, the media would complain about certain games just to make an interesting story or arguement to get viewers. They really don't care about the isssue they just want viewers/money.

I am a psychology major and I took developmental psych were they talk of this and I think short exposure leaves little signigficant results to a young developing mind. Still I'm no expert.

We better not seriously derail this guy thread. LOL

I agree when you say that media exposure from this kind of issues is more about viewers/money than actual concern. Unfortunatly, that sometimes has backlashes to some gaming markets, especially here in Europe, where some countries even go to greater lengths to ban those type of games.

In your case, a short exposure will most likely not leave even a slight recordation for the child, I had thought that he was allowed to play a great session of it, so i'm sorry for my previous comment

Also, as Xbbjf9s has put it, violent video games aren't the most violent experience a child could have. There's lot of violence in today's world, and most of it isn't even put into a physical manner. Psychological abuse and forms of conditioning are severely more damaging to a developing mind than any video game.

I'll take your advice on not derailing this member's thread any further I just think that this issue should be debated more often, as the only time we hear about it is when the media does a biased "study" on it.  



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Frieza said:
"whats your record. round3 i couldn't play in the red corner, is it easyer to play in that corner. desroyed people in the blue corner."

On round 3 i had about 1500 wins and 180 losses on round 4 i had 440 wins and 30 losses.


over 200 to 400 victoies over cpu no losses. about 120 to 150 none cpu victories and 6 loses. i also fought with everyfeather, weigth lightweight, welter weight, and middle weight to beat heavy weights and lost twice.



beating thunderforce 3 and thunderforce 4 on mania setting without loss of life.



...not much time to post anymore, used to be awesome on here really good fond memories from VGchartz...

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really miss the VGCHARTZ of 2008 - 2013...

Skeeuk said:

beating thunderforce 3 and thunderforce 4 on mania setting without loss of life.


thunderforce?



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- Finishing 3rd with my Counter Strike team in PG Challange Masters and winning 2500 dollars.
- Successfully running top czech sponsored multigaming clan for a period of 3 years.
- Beeing gladiator in WoW in Season4 with underpowered setup (Warrior + Shaman) with score 50-4 and beeing the highest rated War+Sham on the battlegroup

Yep pretty much every achievement is inside some kind of community, I can't have this feeling of achievement just by playing something by myself, since I'm just trying to beat computer. I was allways competetive, so multiplayer is the way to go.



MY HYPE LIST: 1) Gran Turismo 5; 2) Civilization V; 3) Starcraft II; 4) The Last Guardian; 5) Metal Gear Solid: Rising

lestatdark said:
chocoloco said:
lestatdark said:
chocoloco said:
lestatdark said:
chocoloco said:
Watching my five year old nephew playing better at Manhunt then me. (Sniff) I taught him so much.

And this is why there's so much controversy when games like Manhunt are released. 5 year old's should even't look at this game. 

 

Not if your goal is to raise an assasin!

I know you're trying to be funny and probably you just wanted your nephew to have a good time while gaming with you. 

But these are the cases that then lead to games being discriminated and nitpicked in the social media.

Anyway, i'm not trying to impose anything on you, you do as you see fit. I just think that manhunt isn't a game for five year olds, no matter how "well" they deal with it. Children of that age have no psychological development to discern reality from fiction, so there is no way to determine what he will learn from them.  

Truthfully, he only played the game for a minute and it was a younger brother who gave him the controller, but I dont think that short of exposure would harm a child from such a short experience.  

Yes, adults sould keep very young children from great exposure to such violent games. Yet, the media would complain about certain games just to make an interesting story or arguement to get viewers. They really don't care about the isssue they just want viewers/money.

I am a psychology major and I took developmental psych were they talk of this and I think short exposure leaves little signigficant results to a young developing mind. Still I'm no expert.

We better not seriously derail this guy thread. LOL

I agree when you say that media exposure from this kind of issues is more about viewers/money than actual concern. Unfortunatly, that sometimes has backlashes to some gaming markets, especially here in Europe, where some countries even go to greater lengths to ban those type of games.

In your case, a short exposure will most likely not leave even a slight recordation for the child, I had thought that he was allowed to play a great session of it, so i'm sorry for my previous comment

Also, as Xbbjf9s has put it, violent video games aren't the most violent experience a child could have. There's lot of violence in today's world, and most of it isn't even put into a physical manner. Psychological abuse and forms of conditioning are severely more damaging to a developing mind than any video game.

I'll take your advice on not derailing this member's thread any further I just think that this issue should be debated more often, as the only time we hear about it is when the media does a biased "study" on it.  

Well were keeping it alive for him so I'm sure he wont mind. I don't know if this topic has been discussed recently in a thread, but it is certainly worthy of reflection by all grown gamers.

America only bans nudity and sex as we tend to be more prude than the average European (danm puritans!), but for whatever reason violence in massive quanities is not taboo or hardly questioned. I could understand it would suck not play great games like gear of war and others.

I was purposely trying to get reactions out of people by making up something that I really wouldn't promote, but at least it created an interesting discussion.

The most unfortunate of people experience domestic abuse, gang violence, or ethnic or religous persecution in there everyday lives. This will have a much greater impact than any amount of violent came play exposure would provide. So I would really never encourge exposing children to violance, but the effects are minor. It has been shown in psychology that exposure to violent images creates more aggression in children that see more violance. Yet it is only a coorelation not causality and also could mean more agressive children watch/play more violent media.

 



chocoloco said:
lestatdark said:
chocoloco said:
lestatdark said:
chocoloco said:
lestatdark said:
chocoloco said:
Watching my five year old nephew playing better at Manhunt then me. (Sniff) I taught him so much.

And this is why there's so much controversy when games like Manhunt are released. 5 year old's should even't look at this game. 

 

Not if your goal is to raise an assasin!

I know you're trying to be funny and probably you just wanted your nephew to have a good time while gaming with you. 

But these are the cases that then lead to games being discriminated and nitpicked in the social media.

Anyway, i'm not trying to impose anything on you, you do as you see fit. I just think that manhunt isn't a game for five year olds, no matter how "well" they deal with it. Children of that age have no psychological development to discern reality from fiction, so there is no way to determine what he will learn from them.  

Truthfully, he only played the game for a minute and it was a younger brother who gave him the controller, but I dont think that short of exposure would harm a child from such a short experience.  

Yes, adults sould keep very young children from great exposure to such violent games. Yet, the media would complain about certain games just to make an interesting story or arguement to get viewers. They really don't care about the isssue they just want viewers/money.

I am a psychology major and I took developmental psych were they talk of this and I think short exposure leaves little signigficant results to a young developing mind. Still I'm no expert.

We better not seriously derail this guy thread. LOL

I agree when you say that media exposure from this kind of issues is more about viewers/money than actual concern. Unfortunatly, that sometimes has backlashes to some gaming markets, especially here in Europe, where some countries even go to greater lengths to ban those type of games.

In your case, a short exposure will most likely not leave even a slight recordation for the child, I had thought that he was allowed to play a great session of it, so i'm sorry for my previous comment

Also, as Xbbjf9s has put it, violent video games aren't the most violent experience a child could have. There's lot of violence in today's world, and most of it isn't even put into a physical manner. Psychological abuse and forms of conditioning are severely more damaging to a developing mind than any video game.

I'll take your advice on not derailing this member's thread any further I just think that this issue should be debated more often, as the only time we hear about it is when the media does a biased "study" on it.  

Well were keeping it alive for him so I'm sure he wont mind. I don't know if this topic has been discussed recently in a thread, but it is certainly worthy of reflection by all grown gamers.

America only bans nudity and sex as we tend to be more prude than the average European (danm puritans!), but for whatever reason violence in massive quanities is not taboo or hardly questioned. I could understand it would suck not play great games like gear of war and others.

I was purposely trying to get reactions out of people by making up something that I really wouldn't promote, but at least it created an interesting discussion.

The most unfortunate of people experience domestic abuse, gang violence, or ethnic or religous persecution in there everyday lives. This will have a much greater impact than any amount of violent came play exposure would provide. So I would really never encourge exposing children to violance, but the effects are minor. It has been shown in psychology that exposure to violent images creates more aggression in children that see more violance. Yet it is only a coorelation not causality and also could mean more agressive children watch/play more violent media.

 

Europe and America are the polar opposites on this matter. While, as you put it well, america has no problem with violence per se, here in Europe it's abhored.

Everyone's afraid that somehow the next Hitler, Franco, Mussolini, Salazar, Stalin and whatnot, will rise thanks to the exposure to too much violence, even though kids nowadays are amongst the most violent children I've interacted with. Not because of the easy access to violence, but because of the lack of morality or pure, simple education by their own parents.

Unfortunatly, one can't shield children from those kind of exposures. It trully is a case of a Damocles Sword. One on hand, if we shield the children from the reality of the world, in the future as an adult, he/she would be underhanded in terms of social skills and wits needed to overcome or contour those kind of situations; and on the other hand, too much exposure to that reality would leave them with a dimished sense of responsability, if they are not properly taught and guided to distinguish right from wrong, what's necessary from what musn't be. 

The same principle can be applied to video gaming and every other kind of media. Myself as a child, I grew up playing Resident Evil, watching tons of horror movies and all sort of violent behaviour portrayed on interactive media. Yet, thanks to my parents uprising and guidance, I learned to compartmentalize each situation and learn from them in a positive way. 

Sadly, most parents nowadays don't do that, which is a major factor to the surge of violence amongst younger generations nowadays. 



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hmm there is the Demon's Souls Plat
there was finding a way to lure the pirates out in the room in Uncharted with the wet floor and columns so that I could pick most of them off before going in.
There was at one point being in the top 50 in one level in LPB the one with all the fire




I have a pirate tale from my greatest moment ever from Puzzle Pirates.

 

Yarrr, It was an average pillage and one of the few I commanded. I earlier had taken the deed to a sloop abandoned long ago since I just became a fleet officer. My crew was small but was gaining steam. The Arrogant Mako had only 7 of a crew, and it one of my first voyages. Along the way we were intercepted by the most terryfing sight outside of Atlantis, and War Frigate which could hold a crew of about 50 and could wreck us in one blast. It belonged to one of the most largest and most horrifying flags, The Sealords of the Sage. Soon after battle we realized they had no cannon balls to fight and were just returning. The Captain of the ship and crew asked to leave him, but he told me also all he had was some gold. I was not sastified. I told him "No quarter" I demaned we turn around and after 20 grueling minutes it was sunk. I became infamous in my crew and my Flag. With the loot I bought my signature pinkish mint trimmed feathered hat and suit, which made me instantly identifiyable. Sadly, I left the crew before I could be kicked out after a crewmate was mad about me abandoning ship. I was recruited by a new flag which made me a senior officer for my deeds. We became the number one and the Sage and I was revered by the few who witnessed the events. Sadly one day, the captain of the crew left and I was all alone with my ship and the one crew member from my first who I remained friends with. I eventually joined the very flag I had defeated and slowly left the world of piracy. The last piece of my legacy is my sloop, which remains unusable to this day.



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