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phinch1 said:
mwjw696 said:

I swear to god that people on the internet get dumber by the minute.

 

 

phinch1   “Sony was first to add the "Home" button on the controller”

I think Microsoft call it a Guide Button but nice try… swing and a miss.

What ever the name is, the basis of its function is still the same, pushing the button mid game will still bring up, the main menu, home, xmb , navigation, guide or whatever you fancy calling it, so I fail to see where that statement was dumb

Personally i think someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed ay grouchy? :)

 

Did the PS2 have it?  I am curious how the 360 copied something on the PS3 when it came out as it was before the PS3 was released.   I remember seeing the guide button day one for the 360.  Apparently Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo thought it appropriate to stick a menu button in the middle of it that would enable it to access the main game menu, power down, etc...  All of them have it, and all of them allow you to turn your system on or off with the middle button.



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radiantshadow92 said:
playstation home and the game room

If only Game Room were more like Home.  As of now, it is more of a glorified copying of the Wii's Virtual Console, where you get game cabinets and a challenge board and so on.  You can't even walk around your arcade, and there aren't any people active in there.  The avatars wandering around are your friend list.  It is not meant as a way to socialize, but a way to go retro.



Loud_Hot_White_Box said:

HD media drive.

Main problem with the whole thread is that the question posed by the OP is framed terribly.  Of course the console releasing first will have an advantage when the question is framed this way.

What DOES matter is who does "x" best, as Matzy said.

Considering I wrote the original post, it would be useful for me to chime in here.  I had forgotten about the HDMI cable change.  Outside of this, I had thought about thw Wii and the 360, and how copying went back and forth on that, with the 360 also, but I couldn't think of what the PS3 did first that others copied, so I asked about it. 




You should ask this question again next gen, when we see standardized HDD, USB controllers, bluray or similar disc based tech, 3d etc etc.



milkyjoe said:

The points about the Classic Controller are flawed and interestingly points out my one problem with the PS pad. If it was made to control mainly modern games then it probably would have been similar in design to the GC pad with the left stick where the D-pad is on the current classic controller as that would be the best ergonomic fit.

As it's used for playing mainly pre-N64 era games, which were mainly D-pad controlled, they stuck the D-pad in that prime ergonomic position as it's the D-pad that will get the most use, a side effect of which is to make it look like a dualshock.

So no, I don't think there's any copying or inspiration there, it's just a happy coincidence. Of course, even if there was, you'd be ignoring the fact that the PS pad evolved to what it is today from an imitator of the SNES pad...

"If it were to control mainly modern games?"  That's funny considering the PS3 controller has kept the same basic design, and I find it quite perfect for "modern gaming."  As do millions. 

Those who can't see inspiration from the DS controller in every controller since, except motion controls, is either biased or blind.  It's pretty obvious.  Even the GC controller drew inspiration from it.  The others have just had a few tweaks to make them different.  However, it's funny to note how they have gotten closer to the actual DS over the years.  All already had 2 analog sticks and 2 hand grips.  The original X-Box only had 2 shoulder buttons, but this gen the 360 now has 4 just like the DS (as well as having the analog buttons).  They even changed the first X-Box controller to have a form factor closer to the DS when the original was panned as a horrible controller.  And there's no way anyone with a sane mind can deny the similarities between the Wii Classic controller and it.  The original version looked quite a bit like it, but this new iteration is almost an exact "copy."  I don't have a problem with it, as the DS was excellently designed.  It's basic form has lasted over 3 gens, and will probably continue onward for more.  And all of these other controllers I see as paying omage to it, but with their own little tweaks.



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Severance said:
mwjw696 said:

 

Severance  “don't know about you but it actually looks more like the dualshock than the 360's controller”

.You’re kidding right, the wii controller (forget the right name for it) is a SNES controller with grips… the end.

 

The SNES had 2 analog sticks in the middle , vibrations and grips? news to me..

why did they add those? exactly , they saw what good about the "other" controller and made it like it, at first they had this.

 

then went to this

If you remember well, the first ps1 controller (before they even released the first dualshock) lacked the analogue stick and rumble. And it really was a SNES controller rip-off with two buttons added (L2 + R2). Then, N64 released in 1996 with an analogue stick followed by starfox 64 in 1997 that came packed with a rumble pack. Then, Sony's response to Nintendo was the dualshock with analogue sticks and rumble.

 

Well, i still agree with anyone who says it is by copying that in some way, that these companys contribute to make the industry move foward rather than backward. 

 

(Sorry if it was already been writen, only read through page 7)



scottie said:
Xoj said:
scottie said:
Severance said:
richardhutnik said:

I am seeing the Wii getting a controller add on for the Wiimote that looks like the 360.  Outside of that, what else?  Can someone fill me in here?

 

don't know about you but it actually looks more like the dualshock than the 360's controller.

 

 

 

other than that, i can add some stuff that i rather call inspiration than a "Rip off!" to this thread but i choose not to because there are some people who will take it deeply and personally.

 

Correlation does not imply causation. The reason the classic controller looks like the dual shock is because they are both SNES pads with analogue sticks added on in the only place you could add them

 

Edit - stupid typo *brews more coffee*

it's not like nintendo was first either by your definition nintendo COPIED ATARI and therefore they have never innovated.

 

SNES - dpad on the left, 4 buttons arranged in a diamond on the right, start and select  in the middle, 2 shoulder buttons

PS1/2 - dpad on the left, 4 buttons arranged in a diamond on the right, start and select  in the middle, analogue sticks below the dpad and 4 buttons, 4 shoulder buttons 

Classic controller/ps3 - dpad on the left, 4 buttons arranged in a diamond on the right, start, home and select  in the middle, analogue sticks below the dpad and 4 buttons, 4 shoulder buttons, motion in the case of PS3

 

Atari 2600 - 1 button, joystick

NES - 2 buttons, start select, d pad

 

How did Nintendo copy atari?

they made a video console? after em?



Xoj said:
scottie said:
Xoj said:
scottie said:
Severance said:
richardhutnik said:

I am seeing the Wii getting a controller add on for the Wiimote that looks like the 360.  Outside of that, what else?  Can someone fill me in here?

 

don't know about you but it actually looks more like the dualshock than the 360's controller.

 

 

 

other than that, i can add some stuff that i rather call inspiration than a "Rip off!" to this thread but i choose not to because there are some people who will take it deeply and personally.

 

Correlation does not imply causation. The reason the classic controller looks like the dual shock is because they are both SNES pads with analogue sticks added on in the only place you could add them

 

Edit - stupid typo *brews more coffee*

it's not like nintendo was first either by your definition nintendo COPIED ATARI and therefore they have never innovated.

 

SNES - dpad on the left, 4 buttons arranged in a diamond on the right, start and select  in the middle, 2 shoulder buttons

PS1/2 - dpad on the left, 4 buttons arranged in a diamond on the right, start and select  in the middle, analogue sticks below the dpad and 4 buttons, 4 shoulder buttons 

Classic controller/ps3 - dpad on the left, 4 buttons arranged in a diamond on the right, start, home and select  in the middle, analogue sticks below the dpad and 4 buttons, 4 shoulder buttons, motion in the case of PS3

 

Atari 2600 - 1 button, joystick

NES - 2 buttons, start select, d pad

 

How did Nintendo copy atari?

they made a video console? after em?

LMAO XD

That would make nintendo, sony, sega, microsoft and whatever the name of the companys that made turbografx-16 and neogeo, etc . copycats of Atari ?!?   =O

(just kidding BTW)



RolStoppable said:

Read this and you will feel enlightened.

this feels like a rol article... though i dunno, something's off, the guy seems actually serious...



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Cougarman said:
realill said:
PS3 is a first console with Internet Browser and Wii is second.

Dreamcast says hi from the grave

something went down the wrong pipe after reading that. stop trying to kill me you assasin of snark.

 

didn't the famicom have a primitive modem for some sort ofsattelite link for some very basic functions.?    Not sure I'd call it online but it was an early form of networking.



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