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Garnett on 17 April 2010

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Everything on 360 is a flop.



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Solid_Snake4RD on 17 April 2010
thelifatree said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
thelifatree said:
500 K =/= Flop FF TOTAL 1.3 MILL NA Most ever by a FF first month

While the legs will probably suck

no part of this was a flop

a big first first month doesn't mean anything,it the game sales drop dead after that.

 

and we are talking about Final Fanatasy,one of the few eite franchises out there.Comparing to that level,it was a flop not only on 360 but also on PS3

How is it a flop yet. It has the highest FF numbers month 1

 

month 2 hasn't happend yet. You can guess that the second month will flop, or trend, but you can't call it a flop yet.

No they weren't the highest FF numbers.

In japan they were way low.We can't say about WW numbers cause VGC doesn't have them,they only have cumulative numbers.

 

Also,you can tell looking at the legs of FF13.Last week its legs just fell off.Staying on this site will make your predicting better.

 

 



Goodfella on 17 April 2010

MEGASUPERGIGANTIC flop of a thread!   




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Solid_Snake4RD on 17 April 2010
thelifatree said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
thelifatree said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
thelifatree said:
500 K =/= Flop FF TOTAL 1.3 MILL NA Most ever by a FF first month

While the legs will probably suck

no part of this was a flop

a big first first month doesn't mean anything,it the game sales drop dead after that.

 

and we are talking about Final Fanatasy,one of the few eite franchises out there.Comparing to that level,it was a flop not only on 360 but also on PS3

How is it a flop yet. It has the highest FF numbers month 1

 

month 2 hasn't happend yet. You can guess that the second month will flop, or trend, but you can't call it a flop yet.

First off, I highly doubt this is the highest first month sales for a Final Fantasy game, if you're referring to outside of Japan.  That would probably go to FFVIII or FFX.  We just don't have the numbers for those games outside of Japan.  However, both FFVIII and X smashed the first months sales of FFXIII by a longshot in Japan, and Americas sales weren't that much different by comparison (just about a million less).  With FFVIII taking the clear lead with 2.5m in the first week in Japan alone.  I remember FFX being the most anticipated and pre-ordered game for the PS2 upon its relelase as well.  Can't say the same about FFXIII now...

Second of all, the reason people are hesitant to think the game will continue to sell well is because FFXIII is on the systems notorious for having 'major' releases that are front loaded that have no legs.  Mostly because the HD consoles are the 'high end' consoles which have the smaller userbase and people usually buy games based on hype.

This isn't the days of the PSX or PS2 where Final Fantasy is riding on the success of being both one of the top 3 franchises AND on the most popular system.  Now it not only has competition, but also is on the HD systems.

Alright It was first week article released by SE I was mistaken, but I don't see how anyone could possibly consider FFXIII a flop unless they consider a Flop (Saleswise not gameplay wise)

from VGC

FFXII First 4 Weeks PS3 USA 1,049,440 Total JapanJP 2,193,153

FFXII First 4 Weeks PS3 Others 878085

Total 4,120,678

I believe Xbox 360 is overtracked by a lot by VGC but FFXIII still has more sales than FFXII ... So, it's idiotic to call it a flop, you could say it didn't reach the peak of sales like the last 2 first FF on new generation consoles 7 and 10.

FFXIII First 4 Weeks PS3 USA 884,264 Total Japan 1,850161

FFXIII First 4 Weeks PS3 Others 739,156

FFXIII First 4 Weeks Xbox USA 660,542

FFXIII First 4 Weeks Xbox Others 384,838
Total 4,518,961

Now I know FFXII is not up there with the high selling Franchises of 7,8,X. But it is for sure on Pace for IX (My beloved RPG my names after) and FFXII

don't compare with ff12,compare with ff10 and ff8 and overall sales of ff7,8,10.

 

ff12 basically sold badly cause it was released after ff13's announcement.ff13 noway near the first game on a new console ff sales



Carl on 17 April 2010
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
Carl2291 said:
I disagree.

Final Fantasy XIII on the 360 has already outsold a huge JRPG franchise on the PS3 - Valkyria Chronicles.

It blew past the PS3's other big exclusive JRPG, White Knight Chronicles.

If anything, this proves that Square Enix should make Final Fantasy Versus XIII an Xbox 360 exclusive in the West. Just because Microsoft are willing to advertise the game for them, while we see Sony persuing other goals, like copying Nintendo. When the time comes for Versus XIII to be released in the West, Sony wont care about it because GT5 will also be releasing in the same Summer of '11. Microsoft will show love for the franchise. Love that Sony never could.

Agito XIII will also be a Zune HD Exclusive.

You cannot deny my irrefutable factual evidence.

lol so square should abandon their main market? lets face it? without the ps3, none of their games would sell.

Pfft!

Just tell that to Star Ocean! You just can't handle that the 360 is the console to be on for RPG's of ALL kinds this generation.



                            

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Kenryoku_Maxis on 17 April 2010
Carl2291 said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
Carl2291 said:
I disagree.

Final Fantasy XIII on the 360 has already outsold a huge JRPG franchise on the PS3 - Valkyria Chronicles.

It blew past the PS3's other big exclusive JRPG, White Knight Chronicles.

If anything, this proves that Square Enix should make Final Fantasy Versus XIII an Xbox 360 exclusive in the West. Just because Microsoft are willing to advertise the game for them, while we see Sony persuing other goals, like copying Nintendo. When the time comes for Versus XIII to be released in the West, Sony wont care about it because GT5 will also be releasing in the same Summer of '11. Microsoft will show love for the franchise. Love that Sony never could.

Agito XIII will also be a Zune HD Exclusive.

You cannot deny my irrefutable factual evidence.

lol so square should abandon their main market? lets face it? without the ps3, none of their games would sell.

Pfft!

Just tell that to Star Ocean! You just can't handle that the 360 is the console to be on for RPG's of ALL kinds this generation.

I love how people completely ignore handhelds.  Which all of SquareEnix best selling titles this gen, aside from FFXIII, are on handhelds.  Face it, they're a Japanese company and their main market is Japan.  Which means they should be focusing on Handhelds.  Just because they're trying to focus on the American market and high budget console titles doesn't mean they'll be able to sell to that market.



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Carl on 17 April 2010

That post worked out better than i had hoped



                            

outlawauron on 17 April 2010
Bobbuffalo said:
outlawauron said:
Bobbuffalo said:

is official: japanese niche hardcore games don't sell on the X360! Oh the humanity! Dman those halo lovers! Poor Third parties! why don't you support them!? My XBX is collecting dust! is dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed!

Final Fantasy is a lot of things, but it can sell well no matter the platform.

I was mockering the "wii is doomed" gamers <_<

I figured, but there's not much to reply in this thread. Mostly people saying the same thing over and over again.



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thelifatree on 17 April 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
thelifatree said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
thelifatree said:
500 K =/= Flop FF TOTAL 1.3 MILL NA Most ever by a FF first month

While the legs will probably suck

no part of this was a flop

a big first first month doesn't mean anything,it the game sales drop dead after that.

 

and we are talking about Final Fanatasy,one of the few eite franchises out there.Comparing to that level,it was a flop not only on 360 but also on PS3

How is it a flop yet. It has the highest FF numbers month 1

 

month 2 hasn't happend yet. You can guess that the second month will flop, or trend, but you can't call it a flop yet.

No they weren't the highest FF numbers.

In japan they were way low.We can't say about WW numbers cause VGC doesn't have them,they only have cumulative numbers.

 

Also,you can tell looking at the legs of FF13.Last week its legs just fell off.Staying on this site will make your predicting better.

 

 

You're late with your post, because I already corrected my answerIn Japan they are low, Because the ps3 has 5 million consoles sold, at the time the game was released there was  a 4, so ther was a attach rate of almost 1/2, like I don't know what you can expect from there, no matter what wada says.



thelifatree on 17 April 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
thelifatree said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
thelifatree said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
thelifatree said:
500 K =/= Flop FF TOTAL 1.3 MILL NA Most ever by a FF first month

While the legs will probably suck

no part of this was a flop

a big first first month doesn't mean anything,it the game sales drop dead after that.

 

and we are talking about Final Fanatasy,one of the few eite franchises out there.Comparing to that level,it was a flop not only on 360 but also on PS3

How is it a flop yet. It has the highest FF numbers month 1

 

month 2 hasn't happend yet. You can guess that the second month will flop, or trend, but you can't call it a flop yet.

First off, I highly doubt this is the highest first month sales for a Final Fantasy game, if you're referring to outside of Japan.  That would probably go to FFVIII or FFX.  We just don't have the numbers for those games outside of Japan.  However, both FFVIII and X smashed the first months sales of FFXIII by a longshot in Japan, and Americas sales weren't that much different by comparison (just about a million less).  With FFVIII taking the clear lead with 2.5m in the first week in Japan alone.  I remember FFX being the most anticipated and pre-ordered game for the PS2 upon its relelase as well.  Can't say the same about FFXIII now...

Second of all, the reason people are hesitant to think the game will continue to sell well is because FFXIII is on the systems notorious for having 'major' releases that are front loaded that have no legs.  Mostly because the HD consoles are the 'high end' consoles which have the smaller userbase and people usually buy games based on hype.

This isn't the days of the PSX or PS2 where Final Fantasy is riding on the success of being both one of the top 3 franchises AND on the most popular system.  Now it not only has competition, but also is on the HD systems.

Alright It was first week article released by SE I was mistaken, but I don't see how anyone could possibly consider FFXIII a flop unless they consider a Flop (Saleswise not gameplay wise)

from VGC

FFXII First 4 Weeks PS3 USA 1,049,440 Total JapanJP 2,193,153

FFXII First 4 Weeks PS3 Others 878085

Total 4,120,678

I believe Xbox 360 is overtracked by a lot by VGC but FFXIII still has more sales than FFXII ... So, it's idiotic to call it a flop, you could say it didn't reach the peak of sales like the last 2 first FF on new generation consoles 7 and 10.

FFXIII First 4 Weeks PS3 USA 884,264 Total Japan 1,850161

FFXIII First 4 Weeks PS3 Others 739,156

FFXIII First 4 Weeks Xbox USA 660,542

FFXIII First 4 Weeks Xbox Others 384,838
Total 4,518,961

Now I know FFXII is not up there with the high selling Franchises of 7,8,X. But it is for sure on Pace for IX (My beloved RPG my names after) and FFXII

don't compare with ff12,compare with ff10 and ff8 and overall sales of ff7,8,10.

 

ff12 basically sold badly cause it was released after ff13's announcement.ff13 noway near the first game on a new console ff sales

Compare it to FFIX which sold less than 12.  All I'm saying is the numbers are no more than say. MGS First game 6 million, MGS2 6, MGS4. 4.6 Does that make metal gear solid 4 a  flop. No. I'm not disagreeing that it didn't perform up to 7,8,10 standards.

Flop is the the Final Fantasy Movie Cost 150 million make 30. FFXIII made mucho money as did MGS4, which probably had similar budgets