Forums - Sales Discussion - Final Fantasy XIII is a MAJOR flop on the 360 - we need to talk about it

Bobbuffalo said:

is official: japanese niche hardcore games don't sell on the X360! Oh the humanity! Dman those halo lovers! Poor Third parties! why don't you support them!? My XBX is collecting dust! is dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed!

Final Fantasy is a lot of things, but it can sell well no matter the platform.



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Loud_Hot_White_Box said:

Totally wasn't worth the one year delay for the PS3 version, which would have come out much sooner, had exclusive hype, and would have had much more impressive graphics compared to other games at the time of release.

And the team that ported it to 360 could then have been working on XIV or VS that much quicker, getting those games out earlier than they will now be released.

That is to say, it wasn't worth the delay if SE didn't get a big payment from MS.  But they did.

God i still cant believe that people still think that its the 360's fault that it was delayed, i guess its the 360's fault why every other ps3 game is/was delayed too then is it..?

Oh and i also find it funny how some people think its the 360's fault the game has no towns, why then is the other RPG games on the 360 that has towns and all them other things that make an RPG good?..

and then the is the people that think its the 360's fault for the so called downgrade in graphics, funny then that the is better lookin games out and coming out on the 360 in the graphics department then FF13.

all them faults are SquareEnix's own doings not the 360's fault at all,

so get over it and wait for square to release its DLC with the Towns etc added back in so they can charge you extra for something that should of been there from the start...



Quality doesn't always affect sales, but sometimes it does. I think this is one of the cases where it has. I've talked to a lot of people who have played and enjoyed FFs in the past but who have no intention of buying XIII. They all say the same thing: I hear it's not very good, I hear they took out towns, I saw a stupid commercial with some chick singing.

XIII has a really bad reputation. It's partly reviews, partly the fact that the game has alienated a lot of more tuned-in fans who then badmouth it to their friends. Whatever it is, it's a major problem for Squenix, and they're going to need to make sure it doesn't happen again.



thelifatree said:
500 K =/= Flop FF TOTAL 1.3 MILL NA Most ever by a FF first month

While the legs will probably suck

no part of this was a flop

a big first first month doesn't mean anything,it the game sales drop dead after that.

 

and we are talking about Final Fanatasy,one of the few eite franchises out there.Comparing to that level,it was a flop not only on 360 but also on PS3



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RolStoppable said:

Hey guys,

I thought we need to talk about this:

Final Fantasy XIII sold 493,900 copies in March, according to NPD numbers. It was only 26 days on the market (so not for the whole five week period covered), but 493k is not much anyway for such a high profile release that was heavily hyped and advertised. Let's be honest here, this is a MAJOR flop. Not even the typical 360 legs for big hardcore games will turn this game into a success.

This could have an impact on other Square-Enix games, like Final Fantasy Versus XIII, coming to the 360.

So can we still say JRPGs won't sell on the 360? Let's check VGC numbers:

  • Blue Dragon --> 0.54 million
  • Tales of Vesperia --> 0.49 million
  • Final Fantasy XIII --> currently at 1.09 million, but obviously overtracked. 0.90m or 0.89m is probably right. Pitiful sales considering that we are talking about a main series Final Fantasy game here.

Just for comparison, the PS3 version of Final Fantasy XIII sold 1.5m in week one in Japan alone.

 

 

Now for those who might not be in the know, this is another parody of my favorite hit and run thread ever made here on VGC. I've written one before, I've told someone else to use that fantastic title for a thread, the source material is just that awesome in my opinion.

The thing with sarcasm is that you have to use it moderatly or it really starts to look like attention whoring...........

After a while this type of post doesn't even make me chuckle anymore...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Solid_Snake4RD said:
thelifatree said:
500 K =/= Flop FF TOTAL 1.3 MILL NA Most ever by a FF first month

While the legs will probably suck

no part of this was a flop

a big first first month doesn't mean anything,it the game sales drop dead after that.

 

and we are talking about Final Fanatasy,one of the few eite franchises out there.Comparing to that level,it was a flop not only on 360 but also on PS3

How is it a flop yet. It has the highest FF numbers month 1

 

month 2 hasn't happend yet. You can guess that the second month will flop, or trend, but you can't call it a flop yet.



Qays said:
Quality doesn't always affect sales, but sometimes it does. I think this is one of the cases where it has. I've talked to a lot of people who have played and enjoyed FFs in the past but who have no intention of buying XIII. They all say the same thing: I hear it's not very good, I hear they took out towns, I saw a stupid commercial with some chick singing.

XIII has a really bad reputation. It's partly reviews, partly the fact that the game has alienated a lot of more tuned-in fans who then badmouth it to their friends. Whatever it is, it's a major problem for Squenix, and they're going to need to make sure it doesn't happen again.

See, some of my friends think it's the best final fantasy since FF8. So, I don't see you your friends > my friends.

 Most of the peopel I talked to was excited of it because of the bad perception of 12

 

and I will agree the reviews were lower

But also to attribute is JRPG sales have been lacking this generation as well.

But month 1 FF13 is the highest grossing FF ever. Month 2 I think it will drop off considerably and won't reach 10 or 7 levels. I don't see why at a minimum it wouldn't reach 9 and 12 levels when price drops come into effect etc.



outlawauron said:
Bobbuffalo said:

is official: japanese niche hardcore games don't sell on the X360! Oh the humanity! Dman those halo lovers! Poor Third parties! why don't you support them!? My XBX is collecting dust! is dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed!

Final Fantasy is a lot of things, but it can sell well no matter the platform.

I was mockering the "wii is doomed" gamers <_<



thelifatree said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
thelifatree said:
500 K =/= Flop FF TOTAL 1.3 MILL NA Most ever by a FF first month

While the legs will probably suck

no part of this was a flop

a big first first month doesn't mean anything,it the game sales drop dead after that.

 

and we are talking about Final Fanatasy,one of the few eite franchises out there.Comparing to that level,it was a flop not only on 360 but also on PS3

How is it a flop yet. It has the highest FF numbers month 1

 

month 2 hasn't happend yet. You can guess that the second month will flop, or trend, but you can't call it a flop yet.

First off, I highly doubt this is the highest first month sales for a Final Fantasy game, if you're referring to outside of Japan.  That would probably go to FFVIII or FFX.  We just don't have the numbers for those games outside of Japan.  However, both FFVIII and X smashed the first months sales of FFXIII by a longshot in Japan, and Americas sales weren't that much different by comparison (just about a million less).  With FFVIII taking the clear lead with 2.5m in the first week in Japan alone.  I remember FFX being the most anticipated and pre-ordered game for the PS2 upon its relelase as well.  Can't say the same about FFXIII now...

Second of all, the reason people are hesitant to think the game will continue to sell well is because FFXIII is on the systems notorious for having 'major' releases that are front loaded that have no legs.  Mostly because the HD consoles are the 'high end' consoles which have the smaller userbase and people usually buy games based on hype.

This isn't the days of the PSX or PS2 where Final Fantasy is riding on the success of being both one of the top 3 franchises AND on the most popular system.  Now it not only has competition, but also is on the HD systems.



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