I think the key point here is that we've had two years of 'it would have sold better on PS3/360' (not a few thousand better, tens, if not hundreds of thousands better), so here is that chance to prove it.

If the audience for this type of game isn't on the Wii (which was the argument as to why it didn't sell that well), but it is on the other two consoles, thus making it more likely to sell, then both individual versions should have outsold the original comfortably. It being two years late is irrelevant in this scenario, as it would only just be reaching it's target audience and finally being given a chance to reach its potential...

Furthermore, as I've said already, you cannot go 360+PS3 v Wii, it has to be individual or all three combined. It is a port. It has slightly upgraded graphics, but it sacrifices motion control. That is an even trade off. Doing so would also make a mockery of every single fanboy 'my version sold better than your version' flame war in internet history... Are we really supposed to believe that after years of that we're now going to combine 2 platforms v 1? Get real.

So in gen's of the past we were doing it wrong?  We should combined sales of Genesis and SNES, N64 and PS1, PS2-Gamecube-XBox?

That doesn't make sense, Carl.  Doesn't matter if it's the same game, only publishers care about total units sku.  For you all to do it for sales purposes just make you all look desperate to turn a flop into a success.

So now the userbase argument doesn't matter because it's favorable to the Wii?  See Carl, how can you be so blinded by your own bias!

The ports are disappointing according to those who bought it. They say it's better to buy the wii version. the ps3/360 ports got horrid load time...
　　　　　　　　　　 PS3V　　360V
Getting out of shops　　　　20s　　50～60s
Mission start　　 17s　　　20s
Mission over　　 14s　　　21s
Going into home　　　 16s　　　27s
Getting out of home　　 18s　　　19s

the game freezes a lot too, installing to HDD on 360 doesn't make any difference, the ps3 version looks faster however it's still slower than Wii version, saving also takes a long time, you need to save a lot cus the game freezes quite frequently.

source: http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/258692.html (Japanese)


I guess Suda really don't want to make NoH on other consoles hehe

Can't you guys just declared it bombed already?
This is confusing me.

at least I don't think they will outsell the wii version individually

Nah, i only said it looked desperate because it's a difference of 1 Million consoles.

It's like saying the Wii version of Modern Warfare should have outsold the 360 version, because it launched on a much bigger userbase.

Are you playing the game on a NTSC-J 360? All the reports I've heard thus far was that the game was region-locked. :(

Btw the people here who are saying that HD is the way to go for these type of games as opposed to the Wii, keep in mind that development costs for HD games are much higher than Wii games. So No More Heroes would have to sell a lot more on the HD consoles than they have on the Wii to acheive the same financial results. That matters a lot to publishers. Marvelous Entertainment would still be in financial trouble if they debuted No More Heroes on the Ps360 in late 2007 instead of the Wii. In fact they'd probably be in even more financial trouble given the extra costs they'd have to cover with development.

Japanese publishers like Marvelous are better off releasing uninsipired kawaii desu ne anime jrpg #678 on the DS/PSP than releasing a much more risky game like No More Heroes or Deadly Premonition. As a gamer, I'm happy that there are companies like Marvelous willing to take risks to bring us great games. But if I actually owned Marvelous Entertainment and made decisions from a burely business perspective, I wouldn't have published No More Heroes or Deadly Premonition in the first place. Marvelous needs to publish profitable games. And No More Heroes doesn't have enough appeal in Japan to generate the revenue needed to cover costs. Even on the Wii. No More Heroes was a success in the west but the game was published by Ubisoft over there. How much of a cut did Marvelous get out of North American sales? Ubisoft, as the North American publisher, probably pocketed the lion's share of the revenue for themselves.

Where is the double standard?  For example, nobody expected the Wii version of COD4 to sell more than five times the original versions LTD on the first day.  Which is pretty much what you seem to require for it to be noteworthy.

I'd expect it to sell better on PS3 (by up to a 2:1 ratio) due to Koei having built up the Musou base there.  On the other hand, about a third of Basara's audience is female and the most similar Musou series (Sengoku) is Wii exclusive, so that version may surprise us after all.

Should be a fun match up.  Too bad there's no 360 version to compare though.