I'm gonna call it right now. SC2 will not do well at all.

The Blizzard will bitch about piracy or some other bullshit scapegoat reason.

Come on, why hasn't this PR disaster made it to the headlines?

Won't some kind contributor make it into a headline?

There has been talk on Teamliquid that the news of this has to get out to gamers to make Blizzard care, and to warn gamers about Battle.net 2.0. If this makes the headlines, it would be a huge help.

Who are the guys that makes the headlines? I want to PM them.

I'm not really interested in this game, but I've seen this thread for a while here and I was thinking you could use this font for your thread
www.dafont.com/starcraft.font

Thanks :)

i would like chat romms too, but i would get the game just for the single player, i'd prlly also get it just for the multiplayer, and i doubt it will affect sales much...

I wonder what % of people actually want the chat rooms. I have a couple friends in the beta, and tons planning to get the game. I can find additional players through VGchartz, and now you can probably find fellow players via facebook. I always hated the public chats in SC 1/WC3 - and now that you can invite your friends into a party and chat, I'm inclined to say it's good enough. I mean, if you have a great multiplayer match, you can ask your teammates if they want to party up. And then you met people. To me that's better than friending/partying up with someone first, and then finding out they're terrible/annoying, etc, and needing to break away. In the new system, the only real purpose of the rooms seem to be for people to hang around and waste time... or leave bots to spam... and the internet has no shortage of places for that. Everything about the new battle.net is to streamline the gaming experience, and keep users focussed on that. Chat is for an era where you were forced to play mostly random matches vs people who's skill you couldn't truely verify until you were in the game. Now we have the means to play fair, rapidly connected matches anytime. Battle.net isn't a chat service, it's  a game server. And now we won't have to connect, see 104,000 players online, and yet still somehow have difficulty finding a decent game. The result will be everyone plays more, talks less. Win-Win.

But that's just my 2 cents, when I sit down for a game, I message the people I know online and then queue up, I don't like to waste time. I like to log on, and get to the game. Blizzard appears to be focussing on those of us  who prefer this kind of gaming experience.

I didn't realize so many people felt so strongly about it. Though, I'd say polls on a site like Team Liquid/Beta forums are very skewed - the minority or players likely to be on a site to chat in SC forums are infinitely more likely to want to use chat. Whereas those who buy games just to play them, without investing a lot of additional time in various community options are likely to feel far less strongly about it, if they care at all. And while there are a few aspects of WC3's battle.net I'd like to see return, thus far, the superiority of the matchmaking system has, for me, been a greater gain than all that is lost.

New update is out and all fresh, the ultralisk has been kind of buffed too. Archons are not jsut useless crap anymore, now they are just useless. I also like how some of the research has been consolidated. Now if they can make it so that there isn't 5 strategies per race ad back to dozens from SC1 and I will be happy.

Sadly what has been said about the Bnet 2.0 thin in the interview seems to be rue since there have been no new additions to it. This is how the tally is standing for Bnet 2.0 compared to previous Bnets if anyone is wondering:

' 'facebook

' 'different leagues (which are useless snince I constantly have to fight gold people in the silver leagues)

-no lan

-no chat

-have to authenticate to bnet to play single-player (what I gathered from the interview)

-region locked

-apparently custom game creation absolutely sucks, and hard (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=127066)

-adding friends is worse than the Wii, it's seriously pathetic

All in all the game itself is pretty fun and kudos to that team. However the Bnet team really needs to just get fired and have this thing rebuilt form the ground up, because this is just embarassing. I hae to say this, but Gamespy and even GFWL look good compared to Bnet 2.0. That's how sad the new Bnet is.

I also remember how a bunch of the developers of Bnet left a few yars back, to make that Hellgate game. I wonder if they left because they saw this shit coming, or this shit happened because they left. In either case, and whatever anynone says, Activision utterly trashed Blizzard.

tl;dr Battle.net 2.0 is shit, it's horrible, and it's an embarassment to everything that is online gaming.

Edit: the new VGC does not seem able to show plus signs, but they are supposed to be between the quotes at the top.

Battle.Net isn't pathetic. It's just missing features, it has introduced some good things to be fair.

Battle.net is not pathetic. Battle.net 2.0 is absolutely trash. The few missing features are the foundations of a good online system. Right now there is none of that.