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I liked the WiiWare demos that they had, infact I bought one of the games because of the demo. I think that storage is a problem as well. I have a 2gb SD card that could be enough for a demo or two, but I don't know how many people actually uses SD cards.



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Rainbird said:
Samus Aran said:
Rainbird said:
Samus Aran said:
Rainbird said:
@ Samus Aran

No I do not. 3 of my 4 current Wii games are from Nintendo, and the only one that has really entertained me is the one that isn't from Nintendo. Go figure.

Well, you didn't buy any of their main games besides metroid prime trilogy. So why complain? Wii sports was free and if you don't like that one you shouldn't have bought wii sports resort.

 

Ps: like I said, you have some high gaming standards if you didn't like metroid prime trilogy.

No, because they're expensive, which is why I need demoes. I can't tell from gameplay videos if I will like SSBB for example. It's a mess to look at, which is why I need a demo!

And tastes differ, not everyone likes the same thing. But if I'm playing a singleplayer game, I need something to keep me going, which can be a) great gameplay or b) great story. A great atmosphere helps too. I'm about 3 hours into Metroid Prime, and I have found none of those, and I'm really having a hard time wanting to go on. It's just not catching on.

Metroid prime games have two of those things(they're famous for their gameplay and atmosphere). Actually it also has great story if you read the scans. The whole Luminoth vs Ing thing was one of the best story-lines I've seen in a video-game. I know tastes differ, but you can really tell if you're going to love or hate metroid prime games by gameplay vids. You're right about SSBB though, I took the risk and have clocked over 100 hours on it now. It's my least favorite wii game though besides the conduit(I only own AAA games on my Wii, so it's still an amazing game).

 

Ps: Don't ever buy the conduit, it's horrible. 

And that's why I picked it up, but I'm honestly having a hard time seeing it.

The exploration is pretty overwhelming and confusing at times without ever being great, the shooting is nothing out of the ordinary (and I hate it when the pointer goes offscreen and you have to wait for the Wii to see it again), and the rolling is like walking, except slightly faster.

And I find the world to be pretty average and unexciting so far. It's just obvious that it's a videogame world, it's designed to be traversed by Samus and no one else, the enemies are stupid and have their basic patterns that are easy to see and they will respawn at exactly the same places if you reenter a room. That whole thing about being designed as a videogame world just ruins the immersion for me in a game like Metroid Prime, and makes the experience unexciting.

On top of all that, there is are design decisions that simply annoy me. I hate protagonists that you are supposed to immerse yourself into being (Half-Life 2, Bioshock, Metroid Prime, etc.), it doesn't work for me! That's another thing that ruins immersion for me! And who the hell designs a game without checkpoints?!

@ SSBB

I think I'll get it at some point, but regardless, I need to get my Wii online first.

And don't worry, I'm not going anywhere near The Conduit

I think prime 3 has some checkpoints at bosses, but checkpoints make a game way too easy anyway. The only time you'll be dieing is against bosses.

You do know prime 1 is 10 years old, right? Pointer never goes offscreen for me, so wouldn't know what causes that with you. Prime games are about exploration and shooting isn't really important.

But I'll check through your game collection in a moment and I'll see if I can suggest you something(I've played pretty much every wii game that is considered good. That's the next best thing besides demo's I guess lol.

Zelda and Okami seem like an obvious pick if you like single player games, but then again, you don't like to immerse yourself into the protagonist(I actually love that :P)

And I see you want your wii online. Mario kart wii is still the best online experience on the wii.

Ps: Perhaps unethical, but you could also download your games and buy them if you like them. That way you cause no harm to the industry. I suppose...



Samus Aran said:
Rainbird said:

And that's why I picked it up, but I'm honestly having a hard time seeing it.

The exploration is pretty overwhelming and confusing at times without ever being great, the shooting is nothing out of the ordinary (and I hate it when the pointer goes offscreen and you have to wait for the Wii to see it again), and the rolling is like walking, except slightly faster.

And I find the world to be pretty average and unexciting so far. It's just obvious that it's a videogame world, it's designed to be traversed by Samus and no one else, the enemies are stupid and have their basic patterns that are easy to see and they will respawn at exactly the same places if you reenter a room. That whole thing about being designed as a videogame world just ruins the immersion for me in a game like Metroid Prime, and makes the experience unexciting.

On top of all that, there is are design decisions that simply annoy me. I hate protagonists that you are supposed to immerse yourself into being (Half-Life 2, Bioshock, Metroid Prime, etc.), it doesn't work for me! That's another thing that ruins immersion for me! And who the hell designs a game without checkpoints?!

@ SSBB

I think I'll get it at some point, but regardless, I need to get my Wii online first.

And don't worry, I'm not going anywhere near The Conduit

I think prime 3 has some checkpoints at bosses, but checkpoints make a game way too easy anyway. The only time you'll be dieing is against bosses.

You do know prime 1 is 10 years old, right? Pointer never goes offscreen for me, so wouldn't know what causes that with you. Prime games are about exploration and shooting isn't really important.

But I'll check through your game collection in a moment and I'll see if I can suggest you something(I've played pretty much every wii game that is considered good. That's the next best thing besides demo's I guess lol.

Zelda and Okami seem like an obvious pick if you like single player games, but then again, you don't like to immerse yourself into the protagonist(I actually love that :P)

And I see you want your wii online. Mario kart wii is still the best online experience on the wii.

Ps: Perhaps unethical, but you could also download your games and buy them if you like them. That way you cause no harm to the industry. I suppose...

Checkpoints are great, I hate going through stuff I already completed that is completely unrelated to why I died (and I only do die at boss fights, but I don't want to redo stuff to get to that fight). And I know it's an old game, which is why I've been thinking about skipping ahead and see if there are any improvements, but I don't want to miss out on the story (although the story has to be really important to convince me not to skip the first game by now). And usually the pointer goes offscreen when I turn, but that's probably just me using too wide motions for the hardware (every FPS should support M+, it's so much smoother in RS2 when the pointer goes offscreen).

And thanks for the effort

And I just ordered Okami actually (along with MadWorld and Resident Evil 4), so that should be here tuesday. I just hope they can get RE4 though, they couldn't tell me what the situation was with it and so how long it would take :/

And the main reason I want my Wii online is so I can get on WiiWare and get some games (World of Goo! ), and for the occasional online play.

I've thought about that, but I'm still against it, even if it is just for testing purposes. If Nintendo don't want me to try out the games, then they can just wave goodbye to the sales.



Rainbird: your pointer should never go off-screen in Metroid Prime. Go into the Options and set the pointer sensitivity to "advanced", it will solve your speed problems.

Otherwise I can't offer you anything. If MP1 isn't your cup of tea, try MP3. If that isn't, then sell the package.



Of course it would be great to have demos on the Wii, but it capacities to hold one are limited, and that's why it's impossible to make it come true. See the 40MB WiiWare games. I don't know how much space a demo would use, but I don't think it's much less or more than 40MB.



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I agree, demoes would be great! Hopefully Nintendo's experiment with WiiWare demoes was positive and makes them consider enabling demoes of retail games.
It would be a great way of getting more people to connect their Wii's as well.

Make it happen Nintendo!



Khuutra said:
Rainbird: your pointer should never go off-screen in Metroid Prime. Go into the Options and set the pointer sensitivity to "advanced", it will solve your speed problems.

Otherwise I can't offer you anything. If MP1 isn't your cup of tea, try MP3. If that isn't, then sell the package.

I turned it up and it seems to be gone now, thanks

And I'm not prepared to sell it yet, I can tell that it's a good game, despite all my annoyances, so hopefully I will start liking it better, or one of the next games will be better.



If the onlien server and wii internal storage aren't adequate right now why don't go with the old way?
Publishing demo discs to add in Nintendo best sellers, like resort, NSMBW, wii fit, mario kart wii....



Rainbird said:
Khuutra said:
Rainbird: your pointer should never go off-screen in Metroid Prime. Go into the Options and set the pointer sensitivity to "advanced", it will solve your speed problems.

Otherwise I can't offer you anything. If MP1 isn't your cup of tea, try MP3. If that isn't, then sell the package.

I turned it up and it seems to be gone now, thanks

And I'm not prepared to sell it yet, I can tell that it's a good game, despite all my annoyances, so hopefully I will start liking it better, or one of the next games will be better.

My fav one is still the second although I think I'm the only person in the world that thinks that. Hehe, if you hate no checkpoints in prime 1 you're going to suffer in the second one. Bosses are so easy in the first one compared to the second game. Usually there's a save location nearby boss fights though, you should use them.

 

You'll really be surprised how deep the story is in the second game if you actually take time to scan everything. You should take time for it by the way. The bosses are also a lot cooler in the second game.



I don't hold Samus Aran's love for the story itself, but the storytelling method of Metroid Prime is one of my favorites, sinc you have to actively engag h story in order to understand what's going on outside of the function of travelling between points and killing enemies and collecting items.

The way the story builds through seemingly disparate pieces of information is really very nice, though the meat of it is of course pretty simple.