i didn't mean the rumbple and u know it, the setting of dual symmetric analog and the leg standing that made the dual shock more confortable to hold.

copyright infrigment it's about they using the SAME technology, and same design, neither nintendo and sony, did, even microsoft, if u develop a different technology to do something similar it's in line with all enterprises business practices.

it's childish to QQ  about something even nintendo does, wii someday will have HD graphics 1080p and technology based on blu ray, u know sony made disc based distribution popular on the PS1 and the wii and GC have used CD/DVD based medium.

it goes both ways, and it should go, since the market gets more competition, expect the console to go cheaper if the competition starts to get popular if this didn't happen no further developement would be needed since they were selling either way and profitting.

Man, I think I'm going to avoid these kinds of threads now. We're never going to come to an agreement.

I'll just bank my hopes on Sony and Microsoft bringing out innovative and entertaining software to end this quarreling.

I wish I had seen this thread before posting in the Tretton thread.

I don't feel like copying and pasting that to bring it here.

But I will say that it's hard to confirm whether or not Sony was or wasn't inspired by Nintendo.
I mean Sony was already messing around with motion control 8 or 9 years ago. EyeToy was Sony's motion control device of the previous generation and I really thought that the PlayStation Eye was going to follow suit, but Sony never did anything with it really.

But now they are. The device we're seeing now (called the Move) looks very similar to Sony's early attempts with the EyeToy. So I don't know.

But I voted no.

Yes its a copy, a blatant ripoff.

However I doubt SONY will lose much sleep over their latest piece of "innovation"

Fact is Nintendo has showed SONY up, as not perhaps being as impervious to external factors as they liked to think.

The Veteran has dethroned the young pretender, but SONY will learn from this !

I reckon that if it wasn't for the Wii's success, we wouldn't have seen Move (or Natal for that matter) this generation (not saying that Sony/Microsoft would have never released this type of control technology if Wii never took off, I'm just saying we probably would have not seen it out this quickly).

So sure, Move was inspired by the WiiMote. But that isn't a bad thing...

Okay, fair enough...Sony were working on motion control before Wii released.

But did Nintendos success force them to bring Move into play? YES.

Truth is, without the Wii, Sony would probably never released motion control at this stage.

So again, YES, Sony was "inspired" (if you will) by the Wii.

Now for a moment, lets not try bending, twisting and looking everywhere for "facts" to try defending Sony's Move.

Bottom line is... Sony wasn't all pro motion control until Wii's success.

Don't get me wrong, I love Sony and Playstation, but  even die hard fans have to realise Move is Wii inspired.

It is Wii inspired, but I don't think that it's a copy, and that's why I voted no.  This poll is a bit ridiculous in that it lumps inspired and copy together.  Would we have seen Move this early if the Wii had never existed?  I doubt it.  But I don't think it's a copy.

This poll is a bit like asking whether hamburgers are better than spam/filet mignon/tuna steaks/whatever else you like.  Of course people would vote spam/filet mignon/tuna steaks.  OMG, 99% of people think spam is better than hamburgers!

Lol, wow at the amount of No votes!!! That's the pure definition of blind fanboyism!

Yeah it didnt make sense, no correct answer there. Either answers would be lying and denying. Its obvious that Sony has been interested in motion for a couple of years, with eyetoy and other products they showed. They also obviously didnt have the guts to release, push it and market it well. I dont understand how some people react and analyze thing.

You dont even know how the guy from Nintendo who thoughts of motion control and decided to suggest them in a focus group had the idea. Maybe its after seeing the eyetoy minigame... probably not, but still, it could be a possibility. Shouting about copycat and/or being mad about others who dont think Sony copied Nintendo, is ignorance just as much as someone who would say that Nintendo success didnt encourage and inspire Sony to walk in the same path. Also, as I said many times already, motion control as a technology wasnt an innovation to begin with. The idea of bringing motion control with an home console as mandatory was tho. This success as inpired Sony to also do it in their own way.

On another note, I dont remember who said to look at the pic where you see the 2 controllers beside each other to prove its a copy. But all those pics usually conveniently remove the eyetoy from the pic. Eyetoy is mandatory for move you know... anyway, game controller are bound to look similar... customers asked for motion controller, considering Nintendo doesnt own the technology were Sony suppose to not answer this demand?  if Nintendo would have invented motion controller it would be different, but its not the case. Inspiration and answering consumers demand is not copying, the simple fact one need a mandatory camera shows that anyway.