Legend11 said: omgwtfbbq said:
mrstickball said: Sigh. Let me take the side of the anti-hyped games, and such.
I think with any game, it comes down to a few sensibilities about a given game:
With an ultra-highly rated, revolutionary game in a given genre that someone loves (ie, a WRPG fan being madly in love with Mass Effect, or a FPS person liking Halo 3 and Bioshock), we have come to have a deep-rooted respect for the given game.
So when someone dissents out of personal opinion, it attacks our strong feelings about our enjoyment of a game. Millions of people spend vastly more time on Halo 3 than probably every single Wii game combined around the world. Yet despite that, Halo 3 isn't the be-all end-all of games. It has it's flaws, but also has a great multiplayer environment. However, not everyone likes that.
Mass Effect is the same way. It has a ton of shooter elements in it. Approaching Mass Effect, I have always been leary of the idea of adding too much TPS elements, and muddying the waters of what a quality RPG is. Now, in my case, I'm trying to get beyond that (ie, an elongated Gears of War with quests). However, for some, they cannot get beyond that, as it stabs their beloved Final Fantasy, and such in the back.
I've experienced something just as heinous: all the Blue Dragon bashing. It's a near-flawless gem of a Japanese RPG. Nearly perfect in every way, backed by a rabid fanbase of owners that realize how truely awesome this RPG is. Despite this, it's had bad reviews (77% avg), and alot of stupid bashing from these forums. Does it make me mad? Of course it does, expecially when idiots attack it that don't realize that they're missing out on a Dragon Quest and/or Final Fantasy-level RPG.
But then I realize: it really shouldn't matter what other's think. The people that bash these games DO NOT OWN A 360. Not only that, they'll never buy one: they're too stupid to do that. Because of that, I can't worry. They are just going to have to miss out on the fantastic library of games that they'd probably love if they got off their N-tard or Sonyfan rockers, and tried the library. Likewise, I am sure I miss a few great Wii games with my bias to the X360.
That's just life. Get over it. The X360, from reviewers, is the king of quality gaming. If the 60% of people on this forum that consider the Wii the best system of the next gen's + handhelds want to ignore and bash the X360, that's fine. I'm the one laughing because I haven't had a video game drought since the X360 launched. They have had to trudge through crap game after crap game thrown at them.
So in the end, I smile. I get Mass Effect, they don't. And that's the sweetest victory: denying your enemy a chance to enjoy themselves as they play Mario Party 8 and their Boogie-esque games while I enjoy Sakaguchi and Mass Effect. |
I'm sorry, but I seem to be sensing a case of video game snobbery over here. You enjoy your Mass Effect, your Halo 3, your Blue Dragon. You're more than welcome to. I don't think you need to say that I am "too stupid to buy an Xbox360". In fact, I prefer to think I'm too smart to buy an Xbox360, Because I'm not interested in spending $560 for it when I'm only interested in two games for it, (one of which is getting released for PC). |
So let me get this right... You basically want me to try almost all of Nintendo's games to try to find one with a decent story this isn't simplistic, cliched, or repetitive before I say their games don't appeal to me. Yet you obviously haven't played very many 360 games to be able to tell they don't appeal to you? Talk about a double standard. The snobbery you speak of, well maybe you and other Nintendo fans should look in the mirror. Take Zero Punctuation for example, some Nintendo fanboys thought it was hilarious when he was bashing 360 games, but the moment he dared to criticize the Nintendo sacred cash cow that is Zelda he started to get bashed by Nintendo fanboys like he's never seen with other games. In fact he even mentioned how much bashing he took from it (just go read the NeoGAF thread about Zero Punchtuation for example). The truth is that *gasp* there are people that Nintendo's games just don't appeal to and just because I haven't played every Nintendo game available doesn't mean that somehow I'm a fanboy or that I haven't given Nintendo games a chance. I gave it's games a chance before I realized that they would just be a chore for me and a waste of my time if I didn't enjoy them. Just as I'm sure you played some of the 360's games or similar ones to realize that the 360 isn't for you and that you likely wouldn't enjoy most of the games on it. |
Hmm? I said I wasn't interested in Blue Dragon, Halo 3 and Gears of War. I have played Gears. I have played Halos 1 and 2. I have not played Blue Dragon (I don't think it's out in Australia), but I have played and not enjoyed Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, etc, and it appears Blue Dragon is very similar.
The difference between you and me, however, is that I never said "I don't like Xbox360 games". If I had said that, then yes, I would be guilty of double standards. I actually stated that I am very interested in two Xbox360 games (Mass Effect and Viva Pinata, if you are interested). I have played quite a few Xbox 360 games, as one of my friends has one. It was kinda fun but none of the games interested me at all (he didn't have either of those two games, unfortunately).
However, all I have said is that not enough on the Xbox 360 interests me enough for my to put down the $600 required for me to purchase one. You, however, have said "I dislike Nintendo games." You don't give them a chance. I'm not saying you should play every single Nintendo game. But to dismiss out of hand every game they make like that is completely closed-minded. If you want story-driven gameplay then buy a story-driven game. Don't play Mario and complain, and then say "Nintendo games all have terribly weak storylines". You're just using it to fuel your own anti-Nintendo hate.
EDIT: On the snobbery aspect, I never said Nintendo games are the best. All I ever said was that it's terribly unfair to dismiss all their games and say "I don't like Nintendo games" since they are all so incredibly different. I don't understand how you can possibly say I'm being hypocritical as I would say the exact same thing about Sony and Microsoft.