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travis on 11 March 2010
MANUELF said:
travis said:
MANUELF said:
You should put the stats the pokemon are on level 100(for biggest accuracy) and without EVs(again, for the biggest accuracy) but you can also EV train them and still be able to calculate the IVs

PD: I have a garchomp with 31 IV on Speed and attack and tha nature is jolly =)


Ok you seems like quite a good pokemon master so I'll need your help .

 

So I have a level 98 Gengar and I EVs trained him for his special attack and speed.

I want to calculate its IV but for some reasons I keep getting stats that are in red on this site.

http://www.serebii.net/games/iv-calcdp.shtml

 

So do I put the total stats (ex 225 HP) in the first line "stats". Do I have to substract something like 63 stats in special attack and speed because I EV trained them? What do I put on the second line? I don't know if it my english or something, but there is something I do wrong I guess.

 

Anyway thank for the help!

I can't explain it but If you can tell me the EV's reparted to each stat, Stats and Nature I can help you

@AngelFire

You should read the pokemon bible http://www.smogon.com/

All right. Level 98 Gengar 225 HP    136 attack     109 defense   356 special attack (EV include)  153 sp. def and 308 speed (EV include). He is a mild nature. I think i have maxed his EV for special attack and speed so I guess it 63 less in each stat.

 

Also does a pokemon always get 63 ev in a stats if we trained him until it stop getting EV bonus? In other words do I have to stop exactly my ev training in a stat when he got 255 Ev point? If I give him more than 255 Ev point in a stat, is it going to harm the next stat I want to Ev train?

Thx again, I know it's not simple questions.



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MANUELF on 11 March 2010

Are you sure all the data you gave me is correct? (Sp. Att 255 EV and Speed 255 EV)



travis on 11 March 2010
MANUELF said:

Are you sure all the data you gave me is correct? (Sp. Att 255 EV and Speed 255 EV)


Actually no lol. Have any idea why my Ev stats could be wrong?



MANUELF on 11 March 2010

Because the IV that resulted were INCREDIBLY low for everything except speed



Mise on 11 March 2010
MANUELF said:
Because the IV that resulted were INCREDIBLY low for everything except speed

Which isn't exactly uncommon or impossible. IVs only really matter on tournaments and Battle Areas, anyway.

Personally, I only seem to get decent IVs on Pokemon I never intend to use.

In other words do I have to stop exactly my ev training in a stat when he got 255 Ev point? If I give him more than 255 Ev point in a stat, is it going to harm the next stat I want to Ev train?

If you're really into minmaxing, you should cap your EV:s at 252 instead of 255, saves you a single stat point. And EV's max out 255 points per stat, thus you can't give your Pokemon more EV points in a single stat or over 510 total EV points, no matter how much you train it.

You can feed your Pokemon certain berries to lower your existing EV's if you want to reassign them, though.



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travis on 11 March 2010
Mise said:
MANUELF said:
Because the IV that resulted were INCREDIBLY low for everything except speed

Which isn't exactly uncommon or impossible. IVs only really matter on tournaments and Battle Areas, anyway.

Personally, I only seem to get decent IVs on Pokemon I never intend to use.

In other words do I have to stop exactly my ev training in a stat when he got 255 Ev point? If I give him more than 255 Ev point in a stat, is it going to harm the next stat I want to Ev train?

If you're really into minmaxing, you should cap your EV:s at 252 instead of 255, saves you a single stat point. And EV's max out 255 points per stat, thus you can't give your Pokemon more EV points in a single stat or over 510 total EV points, no matter how much you train it.

You can feed your Pokemon certain berries to lower your existing EV's if you want to reassign them, though.


Well I guess my Gengar is just not that good. That sad he had a pretty good nature. Anyway thank for the answer. The problem is that i still haven't figured out how to calculate my IV. It gives me 0 for HP, 31 for speed and special attack (number in red), 0 in def and 2 in special def. What the hell is going on?



Khuutra on 11 March 2010
travis said:
Mise said:
MANUELF said:
Because the IV that resulted were INCREDIBLY low for everything except speed

Which isn't exactly uncommon or impossible. IVs only really matter on tournaments and Battle Areas, anyway.

Personally, I only seem to get decent IVs on Pokemon I never intend to use.

In other words do I have to stop exactly my ev training in a stat when he got 255 Ev point? If I give him more than 255 Ev point in a stat, is it going to harm the next stat I want to Ev train?

If you're really into minmaxing, you should cap your EV:s at 252 instead of 255, saves you a single stat point. And EV's max out 255 points per stat, thus you can't give your Pokemon more EV points in a single stat or over 510 total EV points, no matter how much you train it.

You can feed your Pokemon certain berries to lower your existing EV's if you want to reassign them, though.


Well I guess my Gengar is just not that good. That sad he had a pretty good nature. Anyway thank for the answer. The problem is that i still haven't figured out how to calculate my IV. It gives me 0 for HP, 31 for speed and special attack (number in red), 0 in def and 2 in special def. What the hell is going on?

IVs vary from stat to stat. All of those might be right.



Kenny on 12 March 2010

I think Pokemon reached its ideal balance between accessibility and complexity around the Gold/Silver generation, when there were just IVs, and the ability to pass IVs by breeding. Once GameFreak added EVs and natures to the mix, and then disaggregated physical/special attacks by type, Pokemon got way too complex for my tastes. (Take that last part of the sentence and say it out loud; sounds ridiculous, don't it?)



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