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Soonerman said:
kowenicki said:
MikeB said:
kowenicki said:
MikeB said:
kowenicki said:
MikeB said:
@ kaneada

They site most of the items as the Gamespot article, but display a biased toward the PS3 version of the game. Surprisingly Gamespot, whom is known for their 360 favoritism, wrote no mention of the commonly cited version difference. I'm quite impressed they reserved judgment and decided not to advocate for one version of the game over another.


I don't understand. The PS3 version is clearly better and you are impressed they didn't write about it like they did in the past when a PS3 port was worse?


show me where a PS3 version that isn't broken received 1.5 less...

also it should be noted that while resolution is down - framerate is better on 360 version.

1.5 is stupid and would only work if the game had gameplay issues... it doesnt have gameplay issues.

Where did you read the PS3 version has noticable framerate issues?

I think you sound like the kind of guy who would rave about GTA IV's cutscenes on the XBox 360 running at ~30 FPS instead of hollywood movie-like 24 FPS on the PS3. Pretty meaningless.

The game is running in 576p on the 360, surely it should be easy to keep the game locked to 30 FPS (it isn't though) on the 360.

go read the technical comparison that we had posted here this last week... from that you will also see that the 360 version has suffered from very poor programming more than any other factor.

The programming is probably OK as PS3 code is well portable. Maybe they didn't take enough advantage of the EDRam, but likely they didn't see much use to such an approach as the game assets have been degraded to suit the lower capacity DVDs (not making much of a difference running in 720p).


read this with an open mind. http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=102957

LOL You do know that you're talking about MikeB. Asking him to read with an open mind that can affect his dear PS3 is so pointless!

And what is there actually to maintain an open mind about? When it comes down to it, this article speaks more to the 360's flaws than the PS3's. Other than negligable framerate drops, could you maybe spell out where you're trying to go with this. Afteral I haven't recieved my acceptance for club vague.



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Leo is right - if you're going to buy the inferior version of a product when the superior one is an option, you're simply biased. kowenicki is unhappy with the difference in score because he WANTS to believe that there's not much of a difference. If he can't convince himself the 360 version isn't inferior he'd have to admit to himself that he is doing himself a disservice by blindly following his personal biases, so of course he has to argue that a 1.5 point difference is unjustified. He has to fight to reinforce his own beliefs even though he knows he's wrong.



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Linearity is a good thing if you want your story to flow smoothly.

Some games need more linearity at points, so you remember what the main story is (Dragon Age is a good example for this, in the middle I completely forgot about the Darkspawn until I random fought a group of them on the road).

Free roaming is good, but it needs a bit of MAKE ME GO HERE woven in somewhere so I will never forget why/what my character are trying to accomplish.

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Soonerman said:
kowenicki said:
MikeB said:
kowenicki said:
MikeB said:
kowenicki said:
MikeB said:
@ kaneada

They site most of the items as the Gamespot article, but display a biased toward the PS3 version of the game. Surprisingly Gamespot, whom is known for their 360 favoritism, wrote no mention of the commonly cited version difference. I'm quite impressed they reserved judgment and decided not to advocate for one version of the game over another.


I don't understand. The PS3 version is clearly better and you are impressed they didn't write about it like they did in the past when a PS3 port was worse?


show me where a PS3 version that isn't broken received 1.5 less...

also it should be noted that while resolution is down - framerate is better on 360 version.

1.5 is stupid and would only work if the game had gameplay issues... it doesnt have gameplay issues.

Where did you read the PS3 version has noticable framerate issues?

I think you sound like the kind of guy who would rave about GTA IV's cutscenes on the XBox 360 running at ~30 FPS instead of hollywood movie-like 24 FPS on the PS3. Pretty meaningless.

The game is running in 576p on the 360, surely it should be easy to keep the game locked to 30 FPS (it isn't though) on the 360.

go read the technical comparison that we had posted here this last week... from that you will also see that the 360 version has suffered from very poor programming more than any other factor.

The programming is probably OK as PS3 code is well portable. Maybe they didn't take enough advantage of the EDRam, but likely they didn't see much use to such an approach as the game assets have been degraded to suit the lower capacity DVDs (not making much of a difference running in 720p).


read this with an open mind. http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=102957

LOL You do know that you're talking about MikeB. Asking him to read with an open mind that can affect his dear PS3 is so pointless!

What do you mean with that? I am a pretty open minded fellow.

On technical matters, years before the PS3 launched I stated there would be porting difficulties regarding legacy game engines to the PS3 and Microsoft advocated development policies are far from efficient (a requirement for good PS3 coding).

That the PS3 is more powerful, we can already judge from exclusives despite being on the market for a shorter period of time.

If you mean to say I should be open minded enough to accept 100 < 35 then yes I am not open minded, as scientifically people agreed 100 is > than 35.



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leo & Kownicki

do not start this arguing here as makingmusic has forbidden discussions like these from taking place in threads other than the digital foundry one, take it there or to wall posts.



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kowenicki said:
kaneada said:
Soonerman said:
kowenicki said:
MikeB said:
kowenicki said:
MikeB said:
kowenicki said:
MikeB said:
@ kaneada

They site most of the items as the Gamespot article, but display a biased toward the PS3 version of the game. Surprisingly Gamespot, whom is known for their 360 favoritism, wrote no mention of the commonly cited version difference. I'm quite impressed they reserved judgment and decided not to advocate for one version of the game over another.


I don't understand. The PS3 version is clearly better and you are impressed they didn't write about it like they did in the past when a PS3 port was worse?


show me where a PS3 version that isn't broken received 1.5 less...

also it should be noted that while resolution is down - framerate is better on 360 version.

1.5 is stupid and would only work if the game had gameplay issues... it doesnt have gameplay issues.

Where did you read the PS3 version has noticable framerate issues?

I think you sound like the kind of guy who would rave about GTA IV's cutscenes on the XBox 360 running at ~30 FPS instead of hollywood movie-like 24 FPS on the PS3. Pretty meaningless.

The game is running in 576p on the 360, surely it should be easy to keep the game locked to 30 FPS (it isn't though) on the 360.

go read the technical comparison that we had posted here this last week... from that you will also see that the 360 version has suffered from very poor programming more than any other factor.

The programming is probably OK as PS3 code is well portable. Maybe they didn't take enough advantage of the EDRam, but likely they didn't see much use to such an approach as the game assets have been degraded to suit the lower capacity DVDs (not making much of a difference running in 720p).


read this with an open mind. http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=102957

LOL You do know that you're talking about MikeB. Asking him to read with an open mind that can affect his dear PS3 is so pointless!

And what is there actually to maintain an open mind about? When it comes down to it, this article speaks more to the 360's flaws than the PS3's. Other than negligable framerate drops, could you maybe spell out where you're trying to go with this. Afteral I haven't recieved my acceptance for club vague.

I think that article shows that a 1.5 difference in review is stupid... thats my only point.

Agreed, it is stupid.



-- Nothing is nicer than seeing your PS3 on an HDTV through an HDMI cable for the first time.

Multiplatform comparison's are not pointless if you have two platforms, if 90% of multiplaform games run BETTER on the 360, I see no reason why anyone would bother to get the ps3 version of those games.

For those with two consoles, it would be WISE to buy the one that gives you a better bang for your buck, and gives you better quality in every sense of the word.

Attacking me saying I don't have a 360 is what's pointless



 

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Gameplay isn't much different in both version when in motion, so no big deal there.

Framerate drops for PS3 version are negligible. They occur during some closeups on faces and parts of the game like when the first boss exploded. The latter dropped from 30 to 28. During gameplay however like running around or during battles both versions remained at a constant 30fps.

The big problem however is the video, which happens to be one of the most important aspects of a Final Fantasy game. If the PS3 version had those same issues as the 360 version I would have gone with the 360 version.

I was waiting for this game for so damn long since the last time I finished a proper numbered Final Fantasy was back with FFX. It took me until these reports and proof of video issues and lower resolution before I dropped my pre-order.


Look, if Kowenicki wants it for 360 I think there is zero wrong with it, it is entirely up to him. I only know that I wouldn't be able to handle choppy, blocky video when there is supposedly 9 hours of it.



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kaneada said:
Soonerman said:
kowenicki said:
MikeB said:
kowenicki said:
MikeB said:
kowenicki said:
MikeB said:
@ kaneada

They site most of the items as the Gamespot article, but display a biased toward the PS3 version of the game. Surprisingly Gamespot, whom is known for their 360 favoritism, wrote no mention of the commonly cited version difference. I'm quite impressed they reserved judgment and decided not to advocate for one version of the game over another.


I don't understand. The PS3 version is clearly better and you are impressed they didn't write about it like they did in the past when a PS3 port was worse?


show me where a PS3 version that isn't broken received 1.5 less...

also it should be noted that while resolution is down - framerate is better on 360 version.

1.5 is stupid and would only work if the game had gameplay issues... it doesnt have gameplay issues.

Where did you read the PS3 version has noticable framerate issues?

I think you sound like the kind of guy who would rave about GTA IV's cutscenes on the XBox 360 running at ~30 FPS instead of hollywood movie-like 24 FPS on the PS3. Pretty meaningless.

The game is running in 576p on the 360, surely it should be easy to keep the game locked to 30 FPS (it isn't though) on the 360.

go read the technical comparison that we had posted here this last week... from that you will also see that the 360 version has suffered from very poor programming more than any other factor.

The programming is probably OK as PS3 code is well portable. Maybe they didn't take enough advantage of the EDRam, but likely they didn't see much use to such an approach as the game assets have been degraded to suit the lower capacity DVDs (not making much of a difference running in 720p).


read this with an open mind. http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=102957

LOL You do know that you're talking about MikeB. Asking him to read with an open mind that can affect his dear PS3 is so pointless!

And what is there actually to maintain an open mind about? When it comes down to it, this article speaks more to the 360's flaws than the PS3's. Other than negligable framerate drops, could you maybe spell out where you're trying to go with this. Afteral I haven't recieved my acceptance for club vague.

I guess I'll put you in the same "Bias Closed Minded Club" as MikeB cuz you obviously didn't bother to read why he asked MikeB toread it with an open mind!



leo-j said:
Multiplatform comparison's are not pointless if you have two platforms, if 90% of multiplaform games run BETTER on the 360, I see no reason why anyone would bother to get the ps3 version of those games.

For those with two consoles, it would be WISE to buy the one that gives you a better bang for your buck, and gives you better quality in every sense of the word.

Attacking me saying I don't have a 360 is what's pointless

I think the multiplats are generally inferior in comparion to the exclusives to begin with and have thought that with every generation I've been a part of the gaming community. I think if you're not taking advantage of what a specific console has to offer when devloping a game you're doing poor service to the gaming community as a whole. Exclusives are what drew me to the PS3, which some people might call that apples to oranges, but its really not. It's common to see better exclusives on the PS3. So why would I waste time with the 360 irregardless of the supposedly superior multiplat iterations?



-- Nothing is nicer than seeing your PS3 on an HDTV through an HDMI cable for the first time.