well not everywhere had the PS3 released in all region's back in 2006,

remember in the  UK it's march 2007.

they expect the new system in 4 or 5 year's is because Sony tend's to release a new system mid way point of the current system, though this system is not even iin its midway point yet. but that never stop's the current system from not selling even when the PS2 The PS1 was still selling ans also the PLAYSTATION is on a 10 year cycle.

that what their Business plan is for.

give it more time excuse is more valid than you may think, before the previous generation all developemnt was single core in right now the PS3 is a multi-core system, and not just a multi-core that developer's have had year's of experience with.

outside of Sony many developer did not have the developemnt kit's until 2006 and 2007,

abnd that does not include when the PS3's cell processor was first released to 3rd parties, the prototype was jun 2005

cramming development from the onset was like giving a crash course in development for a unique processor that this being the first time you layed eye's one let alone had the information about the processor.

look at Uncharted 2, look at sucker punch, insomniac would you say the software they made for the PS3 was pretty good this generation?

but on the same token would you say all 3rd party's had a project that came out on the PS3 that was as good if not better?

fallout 3 was a great 3rd party game for the ps3 and xbox360 but not all 3rd party developer's have had the experience with the PS3 hadware as much as other's.

Sony said the target date release for the PS3 ..notice that was target 2006 normaly that would have mean 2007

mainly because with Sony and release they tend to be off. but I think because of Microsoft's support of HD DVD because of IHD forced Sony's hand to release early.

Hey it was smart for Microsoft to do that no doubt but the PS3 would have been better off with that extra year. to mature the system, but Blu-Ray was a big investment for Sony they have been investing since 1997 into Blu-Ray. they put out the first Blu-Ry recorder onto the asian market in 2003, Sony just did not have any choice.

but even though they took a big hit this generation they I think are better prepaired for the next generation of machine's.

An I am not implying that they are better prepaired more than Microsoft. no I am just saying they are going to be better off as the generation goes and even into the new system's when a new cycle start's because the new system will have overall a upgrade, but no way near the upgrade that the PS3 had over the PS2, the new machine most likely will not  have the 40 fold increase that the PS3 has over the PS2.

So if the PS3 has a 10 year lifespan and we should expect its successor at the mid-way point and the PS3 is about mid-way through it's 4th year, we should expect it end of next year, by their own definitions.

Uh a number of developers and Sonys own first parties are saying they maxed the system out, don't be naive.

Baloney.

So devs had it for 18 months before launch, but also didn't have them in 2007? Oh cripes.

They all seem to be filler except for Uncharted 2. No their output has been very poor, suckerpunch and Naughty Dog have made fewer games this gen, only insomniac have made more, but their quality suffered also.

What else is there to buy besides the current consoles? The consumers would either have to buy those or go gameless.

Nintendo came out with the power glove back in the NES days.....but there probably was one more before that also.

PS1 -> PS2 they killed 1st party support for the PS1 after the PS2 was released.

PS2 -> PS3 they killed 1st party support for the PS2 after the PS3 was released.

They have always kept the systems on the market and cashed in but they have never really supported them. So for the same reason why people say the PS3 will last 10 years I will say the PS3 will get no support for those last few years. If 3rd parties don't oblige then the system is dead. I don't call a crapload of singstar titles and a few other titles anything like support. Their #1 selling, still in "10 year lifecycle" PS2 is getting hardly anything. If thats the precedent then they'll drop the PS3 like a sack of bricks as soon as the PS4 is out.

While it is entirely possible that Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft could put off releasing a new console for a couple of years, realistically one of them is likely to decide that their long term prosperity is best suited by releasing new hardware and the rest will follow suit. Basically, by the end of 2010 as much hardware will have been sold in this generation as was sold in the previous generation, and most of the people who owned a previous generation console will own a current generation console. This (essentially) puts the generation in a new phase where the console manufacturers are in more direct competition, and it is likely that one of the manufacturers will see releasing new hardware as the best way to take consumers away from their competition.

Anything that's Sony related,you just love to always find the negative in it.

10 yr Plan. PS3 is 3 yrs old. 3 is 30% of 10. Remember the gen started when Sony said so. /Thread.