can the 360 sell 70+ million consoles? | |||
| Yeah easy | 111 | 30.16% | |
| Nope | 129 | 35.05% | |
| Mabye a little less | 104 | 28.26% | |
| I'm a troll so I'll go here | 24 | 6.52% | |
| Total: | 368 | ||
toastboy44562 said:
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And we're wondering if it will get 70 million? If the pedophiles are on board, there is no stopping the 360!
toastboy44562 said:
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If you say so...
GreyianStorm said:
And we're wondering if it will get 70 million? If the pedophiles are on board, there is no stopping the 360! |
i know, the 360 could get to 1 billion!!!
toastboy44562 said:
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All depends on how susceptible Natal is to semen....am I going to be banned now?
Polarimetric said:
10 million for 2010 is feasible if Natal comes out in time for Christmas. 10 million for 2011 is high. All three consoles (with the possible exception of the PS3 back in its worst days, I don't know the exact numbers) have pulled in sales of at least 10 million for the past three years. That alone is impressive, but I don't see the 360 selling 10 million in its seventh year of existence. Only a dominant console with an unstoppable library can pull something like that off -- the earlier PlayStations only sold for so long because developers didn't give up making games for the PS2 until the middle of last year. We're in a new era now, where developing games takes a lot more time and a lot more money -- the core developers that are pushing the 360's sales right now are probably already working on games for Microsoft's next console, or allocating most of their resources to enable themselves to do that as quickly as possible. I would see all consoles of this generation tapering off their sales in 2011 in anticipation of the next generation -- 7 million sounds a lot more likely to me, with or without Natal.
I don't see 8 million in 2012 as possible unless some really industry-shaking games come out on the Natal platform. I see it more like this:
2010 - 10 million 2011 - 7 million 2012 - 7 million (that's if Natal really takes hold) 2013 - 3 million 2014 - 2 million 2015 - 1 million For a lifetime total of about 68 million. |
First of all, 2011 is the X360's 6th year in existence, not 7th.
Second, this gen is very special and can't be that easily compared to past gens because we got three strong actors this gen not just one.
Third, console prices haven't dropped like in the past. In last gen when the PS2 was as old as the X360 is now, it cost only $149. Compare this to the X360 which costs $199/$299 in NA and 179/239 Euro in Europe.
So do you really believe the X360 will only sell 7 million consoles next year? That's crazy talk.
| Adobo said: you could have just say yes and bump it up to 70 but you did not... You failed. |
I wonder if you use the same theory when handling money... you'll go into a lot of debt that way.
I genuinely do not believe the 360 will reach 70 million. Will it come close? Absolutely. Within 2 million? I think so. But I don't think it's going to cross that number, and I'm not going to "bump up" my numbers just to say that it will.
@Slimebeast: I counted 2005 as a full year. I should not have because the 360 came out in November. I stand corrected.
And yes, I do. Price cuts aren't coming in this gen like they did in previous gens but I believe that there is a reason for that. Buyers of HD consoles in this generation are buying their console of choice (or consoles) because they want the console itself. They may wait for a price cut, which is why all consoles experience a spike in sales once a price cut comes along, but I do not believe that a price cut alone is going to attract NEW buyers to an HD console if they didn't want it to begin with. The whole "hardcore" market has upgraded by now to this generation, and just one glance at the Wii's sales in comparison to the HD consoles shows that casual console buyers with minimal gaming experience do not yet care about whether or not their games are in HD. The types of buyers that would buy a console just because it's cheaper are already in the Wii camp and are there to stay. A price cut is not going to be enough to push the 360 sales up enough to counter the natural decrease over time of sales due to antiquation.
I said nope, but nothing is impossible! all depends natal popularity... even if natal is a system seller ... 70M is a huge number! 60 millions seem more realistic.
toastboy44562 said:
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That's a lot of pedophiles LOL.
Polarimetric said:
I wonder if you use the same theory when handling money... you'll go into a lot of debt that way.
I genuinely do not believe the 360 will reach 70 million. Will it come close? Absolutely. Within 2 million? I think so. But I don't think it's going to cross that number, and I'm not going to "bump up" my numbers just to say that it will.
@Slimebeast: I counted 2005 as a full year. I should not have because the 360 came out in November. I stand corrected. And yes, I do. Price cuts aren't coming in this gen like they did in previous gens but I believe that there is a reason for that. Buyers of HD consoles in this generation are buying their console of choice (or consoles) because they want the console itself. They may wait for a price cut, which is why all consoles experience a spike in sales once a price cut comes along, but I do not believe that a price cut alone is going to attract NEW buyers to an HD console if they didn't want it to begin with. The whole "hardcore" market has upgraded by now to this generation, and just one glance at the Wii's sales in comparison to the HD consoles shows that casual console buyers with minimal gaming experience do not yet care about whether or not their games are in HD. The types of buyers that would buy a console just because it's cheaper are already in the Wii camp and are there to stay. A price cut is not going to be enough to push the 360 sales up enough to counter the natural decrease over time of sales due to antiquation. |
Your wrong. There's customers for every price point. Splitting the market into just two groups, hardcore who already bought HD and the casuals who buy cheap (Wii) is far too simple.
I know there are millions of guys out there that owned a PS2 (or the similar type, but just were born a decade later), that aren't super interested in gaming and aren't the people who buy 30 or 40 games in a generation, but they want to play some cool games. Often impulse buyers. Not all of these want to spend $300 on a console and not all of these want a Wii, and even if they did a lot of them will want their GTA's and Call of Dutys too.
7 million X360s... Why would the X360 start tanking like that next year? We're at the peak of this gen. Almost no software companies are speaking of next gen. There's no rumours about next gen hardware. PS3 just reached mass market price. MS is pushing Natal hard for Nov 2010 and next year. This year is the biggest year for games since 2003 (or 2001, I don't know lol). 2011 will see a $149 Xbox 360. This is the golden age of HD.
Polarimetric said:
10 million for 2010 is feasible if Natal comes out in time for Christmas. 10 million for 2011 is high. All three consoles (with the possible exception of the PS3 back in its worst days, I don't know the exact numbers) have pulled in sales of at least 10 million for the past three years. That alone is impressive, but I don't see the 360 selling 10 million in its seventh year of existence. Only a dominant console with an unstoppable library can pull something like that off -- the earlier PlayStations only sold for so long because developers didn't give up making games for the PS2 until the middle of last year. We're in a new era now, where developing games takes a lot more time and a lot more money -- the core developers that are pushing the 360's sales right now are probably already working on games for Microsoft's next console, or allocating most of their resources to enable themselves to do that as quickly as possible. I would see all consoles of this generation tapering off their sales in 2011 in anticipation of the next generation -- 7 million sounds a lot more likely to me, with or without Natal.
I don't see 8 million in 2012 as possible unless some really industry-shaking games come out on the Natal platform. I see it more like this:
2010 - 10 million 2011 - 7 million 2012 - 7 million (that's if Natal really takes hold) 2013 - 3 million 2014 - 2 million 2015 - 1 million For a lifetime total of about 68 million. |
If Natal is successful it is 2011 where the notice will happen and 360 will hold or increase sales. I went with hold.
Looking at prices you wont see the 360 HDD version at $199 until 2011 at the earliest. Still a couple of years around 10 million and if Natal gets hot than more.
Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.
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