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THQ says core audience isn't on Wii, de Blob 2 multiplatform and more

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The reason 3rd party sales don't enjoy Nintendo level sales is because third party games aren't Nintendo-game quality. What the fuck did they expect? I mean seriously now, Deadly Creautres and De Blob were interesting, but were they even mildly close to Mario or Metroid? Hell no, of course they won't sell well. Maybe he means that the HD twins have a larger audience oblivious to mediocrity.



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I wont blame the poor sap being interviewed but it seems the fanboy looser interviewer is trying to garner answers that can get people to go to his website and read another "Why M games dont sell on Wii" thread.  I'm guessing he wants Deadly creature to be ported to the low selling HD sytems so it can copy the "it wasnt gonna sell anyway on any system format"  .  Its great that if THQ has a hit on one system and port it over to other systems to keep the money flowing but dont blame the system its on if the game dosent sell.  Red faction didnt sell (it was on two HD systems) so I guess its the PS3 and Xbox 360 fault and it was an "M" rated game catering to the "Core" audience.  Seems you cant please the audience your trying to target or is it the other way around...?  O__0    No More Heroes 2 RULES!!



axumblade said:
bmmb1 said:
axumblade said:

ugh. Cry me a river. People who are saying THQ didn't try with their titles are just bitching for no reason. There were a lot of advertisements for de Blob and it was pretty hyped as well. It outsold the Nintendo first party effort that came out the exact day that de Blob came out.

Edit: Also, why would they waste so much money on marketing Deadly Creatures after it started getting beaten down pretty hard by critics?

Re: De Blob, they did advertise it the first month, and it actually did go and sell over 700,000, so why blame the WIi audience?

Re: Deadly Creatures, so if it was beaten down pretty hard by critics (which was indeed the case), why blame the Wii audience?

Advertisements for de Blob actually continued through the holiday season. I remember seeing ads for it up until around Christmas. It should have sold more copies in my opinion because it was a great game.

If Deadly Creatures would have been worth the effort imo, they would have at least TRIED to advertise it instead of sending it on its way to die. THQ doesn't really go through hardcore advertising for a game unless they think the game is worth it (de Blob, Darksiders and arguable Saints Row 2 are the only games I recall seeing major marketing for from THQ). THQ isn't like EA or Activision, they don't have loads of money to spend on advertisements. So they choose what to advertise carefully.

I think everyone agrees that de Blob did well on Wii with advertisig and being a quality game. However, you are basically saying THQ send Deadly Creature out to die without any advertising because it's not worthy but they are right to blame its failure on Wii audience.

I have discussed my view on Deadly Creature's failure here



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

RolStoppable said:
vlad321 said:

The reason 3rd party sales don't enjoy Nintendo level sales is because third party games aren't Nintendo-game quality. What the fuck did they expect? I mean seriously now, Deadly Creautres and De Blob were interesting, but were they even mildly close to Mario or Metroid? Hell no, of course they won't sell well. Maybe he means that the HD twins have a larger audience oblivious to mediocrity.

Maybe this was a THQ representative?

http://aviewtifulmind.wordpress.com/2010/02/06/avm-interviews-an-unnamed-third-party-publisher/

If you only knew a guy... that was sad.




              

RolStoppable said:
vlad321 said:

The reason 3rd party sales don't enjoy Nintendo level sales is because third party games aren't Nintendo-game quality. What the fuck did they expect? I mean seriously now, Deadly Creautres and De Blob were interesting, but were they even mildly close to Mario or Metroid? Hell no, of course they won't sell well. Maybe he means that the HD twins have a larger audience oblivious to mediocrity.

Maybe this was a THQ representative?

http://aviewtifulmind.wordpress.com/2010/02/06/avm-interviews-an-unnamed-third-party-publisher/

Hahahaha! I actually laughed! BEST READ EVER!



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WoW gamers are not MMORPG players.
D&D gamers are not Role Players.
X-Men readers are not Comic Book readers.
iPod users are non PMP users.

How is a WoW gamer not an MMORPG player when WoW is an MMORPG? how is D&D gamer not a Role Player when D&D is an RPG? how is an X-Men fan not a Comic reader when X-Men comic they are reading a Comic, how is an iPod user when an iPod is a PMP(Personal Media Player)?

Simple, because a majority of fan group [fan.product] won't buy anything outside that particular brand or product. Most WoW players will not play another MMO, most D&D players won't play anything but D&D, most iPod users won't buy outside of iPod/Apple....

THQ is right. A majority of the audience they seek is on the HD Consoles. But like the failures of Conan MMO, Warhammer MMO, anyother Fantasy RPG against D&D. These products only capture a smaller dissatisfied or roaming consumer. Much like how I hear comments that Bayonette should sell more. Well i'm sure the game sold fine, but it's not penetrating the market as it should because the console have plenty of games of that type thus reducing the wandering and dissatisfied consumer.

The Wii market is about growth market. It's about creating an opportunity to build an intense dedication to brand. However it seems that the casual moron market isn't so moronic and isn't so willing to spend cash willy nilly and would rather spend cash on what they see as a good long term investment. How is investing on long term investment make a moron to buy some kind of shit product. The theres offering a mortgage to home buyers, but never telling anyone you offer the service at all.

There are three types of sales. Exceptions, growth and failures. Exceptions are rare and typicly are quick million sellers and beyond. This requires a knowledge of the consumer. Growth which is the norm takes years and failures. Which is a cheap product or a unconsumer product. Like Okami for the PS2 or Zack and Wiki on the Wii.

Wii is a growth market, but don't look for exceptions sales.



Squilliam: On Vgcharts its a commonly accepted practice to twist the bounds of plausibility in order to support your argument or agenda so I think its pretty cool that this gives me the precedent to say whatever I damn well please.

this reminds me of take 2 desicion of porting GTA CW to the more "core" gamer and we all know how that turned out. I know they will take another blow based on these desicions , and i think thats great, because what hurts teaches you.



famousringo said:
gansito said:
THQ has made 3 quality games in the last year

UFC 2009
Red Faction: Guerrilla
Darksiders


I can't complain about their decisions either to develop for wii or hd consoles, it doesn't bother me if they go out of business as well, as long as they keep delivering quality products for the core market.

I think there's a paradox here somewhere, but I just can't put my finger on it...

Not really.

If the options are:

A)  Make a some great games and fade off into the sunset

or

B)  Make trash and live forever

gansito would rather see them pick option A instead of B.



I don't get where people are getting a sense of negativity for this guy - THQ have always been more based around casual / childrens software (Just look at their Ps2 line up) and what he says seems fair based on their experiences and whatnot.

De Blob going multiplatform imo makes perfect sense, the art style means porting it up and putting it in HD won't look too 'ugly' and will be relatively cheap. The marketing budget can be upped as the game is now across 3 platforms - I still expect the Wii version to sell best as it's 'right' with that audience but it no doubt fits in with where sony and Microsoft are headed - with their motion peripherals.

I missed the first one due to never having a motivation to play my Wii, might pick up the sequel for Wii or PS3 though. Look forward to seeing it :).



gansito said:
THQ has made 3 quality games in the last year

UFC 2009
Red Faction: Guerrilla
Darksiders released 2010
Dawn of War II


I can't complain about their decisions either to develop for wii or hd consoles, it doesn't bother me if they go out of business as well, as long as they keep delivering quality products for the core market.