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Most people dislike arrogance, so you get a reaction like this one. His actions let to this reaction. Had he acted differently, he would have gotten a different reaction.

I'm just calling it like I see it



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FKNetwork said:

I think it is very bad how he basically just slagged off ALL the racing developers out there in one arrogant comment, even turn 10 didn't do that.

 

GRID and DiRT 2 are still two of my favorite racing games of this generation, you can't have more racing fun than with these games, PGR 4 was also amazing, Forza 3 is superb, Burnout Paradise was fantastic, Pure was fun, Shift was cool, Blur looks good, Split Second is looking very good,

Thats a lot of games for him to slag off in one comment lol

Well it's not apples vs apples. So you are assuming the translation is perfect, of course? See, unlike comments from T10, this guys native language is not English. Quite a jump of assumption for anyone to assume what was "quoted" here is what the dev really meant.

 

But to be fair, even if a devs native language is English, it's quite amazing how misinterpretations do happen when that dev is quoted out of context, like I am sure did happen with T10 comments.

 

In other words. we can make assumptions until the cows come home but to assume that lack of critique about this guy at PD means others are doing "a hollier than though" when it comes to T10, might actually mean the one that says such is the one that is portraying the "holier than though" attitude :).

 

Wait until we see a pattern develop and then cruxify Mr Yamauchi accordingly. Up to now, (assuming this translation is "accurate", I thought Mr Yamauchi has been most passive?



Severance said:
Kazunori Yamauchi: the last is actually exactly what we do. We as Europeans not to other games while we develop Gran Turismo – it is based solely on what we want to achieve with the game. Actually I find it difficult to play the other games in more than five minutes at a time. The game's low level of quality really shines through in the other games and I can not hold them out!

If this is what he does, it feels like what Madden did.  The designer ignores the world and focuses on himself alone, or merely a small group of fans.  Such thinking will end up with Gran Turismo eventually getting supplanted by someone else who is hungrier than him.  Getting caught up in one's genius can cause a game series to go into decline.



HappySqurriel said:
cura said:
HappySqurriel said:

Grand Turismo 3 was my last installment in the Gran Turismo series because I found it to be very pretty but shallow ... I'm not a fan of simulation racing in general because I find this is a common failing of the genre.

With that said, when you're spending (what has been rumoured to be) over 5 years and $100 Million to develop a game and your competition releases 3 $20 Million games in the same time your game better be dramatically better; and sell dramatically better too. If you spend dramatically longer and dramatically more money to achieve an incremental improvement you have really been wasteful.


I presume you have sources to back your statements up? Or are we just suppose to take your word for it?

Last I heard the development team was (roughly) 200 people working for 5 years ... Even if half of the workers were in a sweatshop in China you'rer still dealing with a $50+ Million budget. Regardless, if Rainbird is correct and it is a $60 Million game, if you spend 3 times as much and 3 times as long as your competition to produce a game your game better be dramatically better.

 

 

If the budget allocated for your example would be real a lot of people would go to China to work in a sweatshop...

Working in a sweatshop does not gives an income of 100 K per year.

100 persons * 100 000 per year = 10 M * 5 years = 50 M

 

Now if those 200 working at PD are paid 50 K per year as average, which should be reasonable, you get a budget of 50 M in 5 years in payroll. And then add the other fee like computer, local, electricity which should get you around 60 M.

I agree with your last statement tho, the game better be dramatically better.



coolbeans said:
kowenicki said:
lol... excellent

now can we have the same ridiculous over reaction here to his comments as we had with turn 10....

no?

oh... ok.

No, no it's just a "bad translation".  Such a joke to see some of these replies. 

I can't speak on the translation from japanese to danish, but the one posted in the OP (despite being bad, to say the least) is still correct on the stuff that matters.

This translation is pretty accurate:

Videogirl said:

I think it should read like this : 

Eurogamer: When you look back on other games released since GT4 - Forza Motorsports among others - Do you look for things (in other's work)that you want to implement in the GT series ? Caracterstics that'd push the genre forward ? Or do you developp GT in a sort of void were you try to ignore what the competition is doing? 

Kazunori Yamauchi: The latter is what we do. We don't disect other games while developping Gran Turismo - we only focus on what we want to achieve with the game. Actually, it's quite difficult for me to play other games for more than five minutes at a time. The low quality of the playability really shows in them and I have a hard time disregarding it. 

By "low quality" he's probably talking about unrealistic car behaviour in games rather than esthetic or pure gameplay. 



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It better be really good or thats a big slap in the face to him haha.
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Sony Selective Memory Syndrome rears it's ugly head again. All the GT fans had a fit when Turn 10 talked up their game. Where is the righteous indignation now? Oh wait, the GT producer says it so it's okay.



Shdn't he be working on the game instead of giving interviews.. release the dang thing already!



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Darc Requiem said:
Sony Selective Memory Syndrome rears it's ugly head again. All the GT fans had a fit when Turn 10 talked up their game. Where is the righteous indignation now? Oh wait, the GT producer says it so it's okay.

Im really not surprised as this is the way it has always been in vgc.



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jesus kung fu magic said:
Darc Requiem said:
Sony Selective Memory Syndrome rears it's ugly head again. All the GT fans had a fit when Turn 10 talked up their game. Where is the righteous indignation now? Oh wait, the GT producer says it so it's okay.

Im really not surprised as this is the way it has always been in vgc.

I'm not either. Yamauchi has always made arrogant statements. It's what made the GT fanboy outrage even more ridiculous. I remember when he gave a BS reason for why GT couldn't have damage modelling right before Forza 1 released....with damage modeling. He said the auto manufacturers wouldn't allow it and Forza comes along with the same auto manufacturers and damage modeling. He may say they don't concern themselves with the competition but it's not coincidence that GT added on-line play and damage modeling after Forza.