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Super Mario Pirate?





I'd play that game.



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What about the 50,000 who downloaded the game? I'm sure they knew very well what they were doing. Anyway, yes what he did was illegal, and what he must do is pay for it, but he is far from the only person at fault, and he isn't responsible for the choices of 50,000 people. Personally I think there is a line that needs to be drawn, and 1.6 million for uploading a video game is well past that line.



So Nintendo goes after some game store employee for a ridiculous and arbitrary sum, settles out of court, presumably for his cooperation in the matter. Unless game store employees are particularly well-off in Australia, does anyone actually expect this amount to ever be paid to Nintendo?

Nintendo is using this guy to spread its message about piracy through the media, particularly to other pirates. They want people to associate the $1.5 million fine with pirating Nintendo products. In this piece, we have the guy saying how horrible it is that he uploaded this game, and that it ruined his life, followed by Nintendo propaganda relating to piracy. I mean... really? Hopefully most people see this for what it is.



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Seece said:
Shouldn't have been fined that much. I don't agree with pirating, but fining that much is just a disgrace, hopefully he appeals and wins.

While the dollar amount does seem high it is more than fair compared to what some of the people sued by RIAA back in the day for illegallly downloading music!  I think one woman from my town was ordered to pay close to 2 million for having something like 30 illegal songs on her computer!  All she did was download music which millions of people do, while this guy helped faciiltate anyone who wanted to illegally download Mario to do so!  If this helps slow down piracy by making people re-think their decisions, than the dollar amount is fine!



IxisNaugus said:
I take it you both (Rainbird and Mise) must know a lot about the justice system and suitable punishments to make such bold claims. I'd love to know how you both came to the conclusion that this punishment is far too severe and he doesn't deserve it.

This man chose to break the law, he was caught and ordered to pay compensation for the damage he caused the company. The loss of potential sales and revenue was a direct result of this individuals actions; the long term damage goes beyond Nintendo themselves and it was revealed that future release dates for Australia may be hurt because of this. Or are you going to tell me he has not in fact caused much damage? If so, please elaborate on that.

Justice has been served and the law has spoken. We can go on all day about how harsh it is to "end this mans life" but i shall direct you to some words that seemed to have gone ignored previously: If you cannot do the time then do not do the crime.

Fortunately it doesn't take a deep knowledge of the justice system to weigh actions against consequences, and it is my personal judgement that a fine of 1.6 million AU dollars is excessive. My guess is that it might take him around 40-50 years to pay off that debt alone (that's 32000-40000 AU dollars a year) if he lives a "good" life. So unless he gets really lucky, this guy will have to live a life of poverty to pay for this crime. That's excessive to me, no matter what you think.



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twesterm said:
Rainbird said:
twesterm said:
Seece said:
Shouldn't have been fined that much. I don't agree with pirating, but fining that much is just a disgrace, hopefully he appeals and wins.

I hope he loses.  He did the crime and he got caught.  Why should he get out of it?

Because the punishment would hurt him?

Boohoo?

I agree with Seece. It's one thing to be punished, but being punished excessively is different. I know it sets quite the example, but much less would have taught him the lesson fine and not ruined his life on top of that.

Nintendo didn't ruin his life, he ruined his own life.  The difference between him and some other guy that didn't get caught is he simply got caught.  Again, he knew what he was doing.

You can stop people from speeding by putting up speed sensors attatched to shutguns and anybody going over gets blown away, after a couple weeks and dead bodies the speeding problem will be solved but as stated before the punishment MUST fit the crime.



Oh yea, this guy is a moron.



twesterm said:
Seece said:
Shouldn't have been fined that much. I don't agree with pirating, but fining that much is just a disgrace, hopefully he appeals and wins.

I hope he loses.  He did the crime and he got caught.  Why should he get out of it?

Because the punishment would hurt him?

Boohoo?

Right... why not kill him then?

Or anyone that commits the smallest of crimes? The world is overpopulated after all.

Really, overpunishing is just as much of a crime.



 


This man chose to break the law, he was caught and ordered to pay compensation for the damage he caused the company. The loss of potential sales and revenue was a direct result of this individuals actions; the long term damage goes beyond Nintendo themselves and it was revealed that future release dates for Australia may be hurt because of this. Or are you going to tell me he has not in fact caused much damage? If so, please elaborate on that.

As it stands now, one man is paying for a crime 50 000 people committed together, and stands to serve a sentence based on damages that might have happened. That's not justice, that's spite.

Not to mention, Nintendo will never get that kind of money back, anyhow, so nobody benefits, yet everyone leaves with scars.

Justice has been served and the law has spoken. We can go on all day about how harsh it is to "end this mans life" but i shall direct you to some words that seemed to have gone ignored previously: If you cannot do the time then do not do the crime.

When the time is more based on vengeance and punishment than fairness, rationality and a possibility of redemption, that quote becomes just as BS as it's maker, regardless of the crime.

As far as I'm concerned, criminals still have rights, no matter what they've done. As for this man, he has a right to serve a sentence that's fair to everyone.



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