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Will the PS3 be able to outsell the Wii in Japan any week this year?

Yes, in more weeks than last year. 706 54.43%
 
Yes, same amount of weeks than last year. 76 5.86%
 
Yes, but less weeks than last year. 161 12.41%
 
Yes, only once. 29 2.24%
 
No, lol? 137 10.56%
 
I like turtles. 188 14.49%
 
Total:1,297
jarrod on 30 April 2010
trestres said:
I didn't add those because they are Western made/published. I know, there's also games like CoD missing for the PS3 too, but I just wanted to keep this limited to Japanese companies only.

Eh, but you actually have quite a few western made/published titles already? (Silent Hill, Castlevania LoS, Dead Rising 2, Front Mission Evolved, Deus Ex 3, Alpha Protocol, Tournament of Legends).  You also have a PSN game listed (Ikki Online), with no WiiWare (the area where Wii really shames PS3 in number of releases).



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jarrod on 30 April 2010
Bruno Muñoz B said:

Japanese devs have definitely dropped the ball. Japan is the only Wii had left since western companies have always refused to work on this platform, and now it is lost. I guess it is time for the Wii successor (Christmas 2011)

Honestly, I think this is due in large part to DS.  It has the biggest base, lowest costs, and is basically the platform the entire industry turned to this gen.  If DS didn't exist, I think a LOT more support would be going to Wii right now and would have been the past few years.

Same story to some degree with PSP and PS3 imo.  Really, in some ways I think Nintendo and Sony have been their own worst enemies.



SaviorX on 30 April 2010

Shame; Wii got the shaft.
I have the feeling though that some time soon such neglect will return to bite people in the ass.

No matter though; smaller teams will make way for next gen. It is only a matter of time. You wonder though why Japan bitches sometimes about gaming dying, yet they won't support the console that most people in their country want.

The only reason this 'core/un-comatose' audience they praise is on the PS3 or 360 is because they have thrown literally hundreds of those titles their way, and gave the Wii about 3 dozen. If the Wii got at least 25% more from the get-go they wouldn't be in such dire straits for a global audience.



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jarrod on 30 April 2010
SaviorX said:
Shame; Wii got the shaft.
I have the feeling though that some time soon such neglect will return to bite people in the ass.

No matter though; smaller teams will make way for next gen. It is only a matter of time. You wonder though why Japan bitches sometimes about gaming dying, yet they won't support the console that most people in their country want.

The only reason this 'core/un-comatose' audience they praise is on the PS3 or 360 is because they have thrown literally hundreds of those titles their way, and gave the Wii about 3 dozen. If the Wii got at least 25% more from the get-go they wouldn't be in such dire straits for a global audience.

Yep, 3rd parties fucked up.  Wii could've been a stronger console market than even PS2 for them, but they threw it away...



trestres on 30 April 2010
jarrod said:
trestres said:
I didn't add those because they are Western made/published. I know, there's also games like CoD missing for the PS3 too, but I just wanted to keep this limited to Japanese companies only.

Eh, but you actually have quite a few western made/published titles already? (Silent Hill, Castlevania LoS, Dead Rising 2, Front Mission Evolved, Deus Ex 3, Alpha Protocol, Tournament of Legends).  You also have a PSN game listed (Ikki Online), with no WiiWare (the area where Wii really shames PS3 in number of releases).

The publisher is Japanese and most of the times they are the owners of the IP, most games are outsourced projects fro m a Japanese company. Silent Hill -> Konami, Deus Ex 3 -> Square Enix, Alpha Protocol and Tournament of Legends -> SEGA, Castlevania LoS -> Konami, FME -> SE, DR2 -> Capcom. I didn't list any Western owned IP or games that weren't published by a Japanese company.

Didn't know Ikki online was PSN, wouldn't have added it.



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jarrod on 30 April 2010
trestres said:
jarrod said:
trestres said:
I didn't add those because they are Western made/published. I know, there's also games like CoD missing for the PS3 too, but I just wanted to keep this limited to Japanese companies only.

Eh, but you actually have quite a few western made/published titles already? (Silent Hill, Castlevania LoS, Dead Rising 2, Front Mission Evolved, Deus Ex 3, Alpha Protocol, Tournament of Legends).  You also have a PSN game listed (Ikki Online), with no WiiWare (the area where Wii really shames PS3 in number of releases).

The publisher is Japanese and most of the times they are the owners of the IP, most games are outsourced projects fro m a Japanese company. Silent Hill -> Konami, Deus Ex 3 -> Square Enix, Alpha Protocol and Tournament of Legends -> SEGA, Castlevania LoS -> Konami, FME -> SE, DR2 -> Capcom. I didn't list any Western owned IP or games that weren't published by a Japanese company.

Didn't know Ikki online was PSN, wouldn't have added it.

Well, We Cheer 2 -> Bandai, Daseioh -> Starfish SD and NMH2 -> Marvelous.  Also, Spectrobes is actually developed a Japanese company (Genki) even if Disney's publishing.



trestres on 30 April 2010

I was talking again about non-released games, but you are right since we are in Japan, even if those are already released outside. The rest could be added, yep.



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jarrod on 01 May 2010

Just for fun, I decided to round up the all upcoming Japanese developed games with actual dates for the consoles...

 

Wii

05.20.10 Japan Winning Eleven Playmaker 2010: Aoki Samurai no Chousen (Konami)
05.27.10 Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
06.10.10 Karaoke Joysound Wii: Duet Kyokuhen (Hudson)
06.10.10 Karaoke Joysound Wii: Enka Kayoukyouku Hen (Hudson) 
06.10.10 Xenoblade (Nintendo) 
06.17.10 HOSPITAL. 6-nin no Ishi (Atlus)
06.17.10 Kaseki Monster: Spectrobes (Disney Interactive Studios)
06.24.10 SD Gundam: Gashapon Wars (Bandai) 
06.24.10 Twinkle Queen (Milestone) 
07.22.10 Kage no Tou (Hudson) 
07.29.10 Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom)

 

PlayStation 3

05.20.10 Lost Planet 2 (Capcom)
05.20.10 World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010: Aoki Samurai no Chousen (Konami)
06.17.10 Clash of the Titans (Namco)
06.17.10 Hakuouki: Junsouroku Idea Factory)
06.24.10 Totori no Atelier: Arland no Renkinjutsushi 2 (Gust) 
06.24.10 White Album: Tsuzurareru Fuyu no Omoide (Aqua Plus) 
07.01.10 BlazBlue: Continuum Shift (Arc System Works) 
07.15.10 Ken to Mahou to Gakuen Mono. 2G (Acquire)
07.29.10 Chou Jigen Game: Neptune (Idea Factory) 
07.29.10 Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom)

 

Xbox 360

05.20.10 Lost Planet 2 (Capcom)
05.20.10 Senko no Ronde Duo (G.Rev) 
05.27.10 DeathSmiles IIX (Cave) 
06.03.10 W.L.O. Sekai Renai Kikousen (5pb.games) 
06.17.10 Clash of the Titans (Namco)
06.24.10 Monster Hunter Frontier Online (Capcom) 
06.24.10 Sengoku Hime 2 (SystemSoft)
07.01.10 Japan BlazBlue: Continuum Shift (Arc System Works) 
07.29.10 Agarest Senki Zero (Idea Factory)
07.29.10 Memories Off: Yubikiri no Kioku (5pb.games)
07.29.10 Strike Witches: Shirogane no Tsubasa (Cyberfront)

 

 

...actually, it's kinda sad all around.  Consoles are dying in Japan. :/

Meanwhile, here's handhelds in the same period with the same considerations (JP made, firm date)...

 

Nintendo DS

05.13.10 Trick DS-han: Kakushi Kami no Sumukan (Konami)
05.20.10 Captain Tsubasa: Gekitou no Kiseki (Konami)
05.20.10 Minna de Dokusho DS Naruhodo! Tanoshii Seikatsu no Urawaza Inwaza (Dorart)
05.27.10 Dakkoshite! Chimpanzee (Starfish SD)
05.27.10 G.G Series Collection Plus (Genterprise)
05.27.10 Kunio-Kun no Chou Nekketsu! Soccer League Plus World Hyper Cup Hen (Arc System Works)
05.27.10 Medarot DS: Kabuto Version (Rocket Company)
05.27.10 Medarot DS: Kuwagata Version (Rocket Company)
05.27.10 Mommy Talk DS (Intelligent Design)
05.27.10 Sekai no Hate Made Itte Q! Chinjuu Hunter Mono no Daibouken (Kamui)
05.27.10 Soccer Tsuku DS: World Challenge 2010 (Sega)
05.27.10 Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Masou Kishin: The Lord of Elemental (Bandai)
05.27.10 Yumeiro Patisserie: My Sweets Cooking (Konami)
06.03.10 Hisshou Pachinko: Pachi-Slot Kouryaku Series DS Vol. 5: Shinseiki Evangelion: Tamashii no Kiseki (D3 Publisher)
06.03.10 Kaidan Restaurant: Ura Menu 100-Sen (Bandai) 
06.10.10 Ippan Zaidan Houjin: Nippon Kanji Shuujukudo Kentei Kikou Kounen: Tsuutenkaku DS (NowPro)
06.10.10 Maru Goukaku Shikaku Dasshu! Gyouseishoshi Shiken (Media5)
06.10.10 RockMan Zero Collection (Capcom)
06.17.10 Ao-Don DS: Hanabi no Goku & Hanabi no Takumi (Commseed)
06.17.10 Kochira Katsushikaku Kameari Kouenmae Hashutsujo: Machiteba Tengoku! Makereba Jigoku! Ryoutsuryuu Ikkakusenkin Dais akusen! (Bandai)
06.17.10 Roller Angels: Pasha to Daisakusen (Starfish SD)
06.17.10 Tamagotchi no Pichi Pichi Omisecchi (Bandai)
06.24.10 Ghost Trick (Capcom)
06.24.10 Love Plus + (Konami) 
06.24.10 Maru Goukaku Shikaku Dasshu! Financial Planning Ginou Kentei Shiken 2-Kyuu 3-Kyuu (Media5)
06.24.10 Tokimeki Memorial Girl's Side 3rd Story (Konami)
07.01.10 Digimon Story: Lost Evolution (Bandai)
07.01.10 Inazuma Eleven 3: Sekai e no Chousen!! Bomber (Level-5)
07.01.10 Inazuma Eleven 3: Sekai e no Chousen!! Spark (Level-5)
07.01.10 Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Dororon! Youkai Daikessen!! (Namco)
07.08.10 Bokujou Monogatari: Futago no Mura (Marvelous) 
07.15.10 Japan Keshisasu-Kun: Battle Kas-tival (Koei)
07.15.10 Metal Fight Beyblade: Bakugami Susanoh Shuurai! (Hudson)
07.22.10 Fairy Tale (Konami)
07.29.10 Nintama Rantarou: Gakunen Taikousen Puzzle! no Dan (Russel) 
07.29.10 Suki Desu Suzuki-kun!! 4-nin no Suzuki-kun (Idea Factory) 
07.29.10 Wizardry: Boukyaku no Isan (Genterprise) 
08.07.10 Monster Rancher 2 (Tecmo)

 

PSP

05.13.10 Hakuouki: Yuugi Roku (Idea Factory) 
05.13.10 Pachinka Mania P: CR Tekken Tafu (Dorart)
05.20.10 B's-Log Party (Idea Factory)
05.20.10 Ginsei Igo Portable (SilverStar)
05.20.10 Hagane no Renkinjutsushi: Fullmetal Alchemist: Yakusoku no Hi e (Bandai)
05.20.10 Motto Nuga-Cel! (Idea Factory) 
05.20.10 Otometeki Koi Kakumei: Love Revo! Portable (Idea Factory) 
05.20.10 World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010: Aoki Samurai no Chousen (Konami)
05.27.10 Blaze Union: Story to Reach the Future (Atlus)
05.27.10 Daisenryaku Perfect: Senjou no Hasha 
05.27.10 Fight Ippatsu! Juden-Chan!! CC (Russel) 
05.27.10 Secret Game Portable (Yeti) 
05.27.10 So-Ra-No-Wo-To: Otome no Gojuusou (Idea Factory) 
06.03.10 Clannad: Mitsumi Mamoru Sakamichi de: Joukan (Prototype)
06.03.10 Fairy Tail: Portable Guild (Konami)
06.03.10 Hisshou Pachinko: Pachi-Slot Kouryaku Series Portable Vol. 1: Shinseiki Evangelion: Tamashii no Kiseki (D3 Publisher)
06.10.10 Wand of Fortune Portable (Idea Factory) 
06.24.10 Boku no Natsuyasumi Portable 2: Nazo Nazo Shimai to Chinbotsusen no Himitsu (Sony Computer Entertainment)
06.24.10 Chaos;Head Noah (5pb.games)
06.24.10 Clannad: Mitsumi Mamoru Sakamichi de: Gekan (Prototype)
06.24.10 D.C. Girl's Symphony Pocket (Idea Factory) 
06.24.10 Hana to Otome ni Shukufuku o: Harekaze no Okurimono (Alchemist)
06.24.10 Narcissus: Moshimo Ashita ga Runara (Kadowkawa Games) 
06.24.10 R.U.R.U.R.: Petit Prince (Views)
06.24.10 Shin Koihime Musou: Otome Ryouran: Sangokushi Engi: Wu-Hen (Yeti) 
06.24.10 Starry Sky: In Spring - PSP Edition (Asgard) 
06.24.10 The King of Fighters Portable 94-98: Chapter of Orochi (SNK Playmore)
06.24.10 Tinkle: Crusaders GoGo! (ASCII Media Works)
06.24.10 Uta no: Prince-Sama (Broccoli) 
07.01.10 Hanayaka Kana, Ware ga Ichizoku (Idea Factory) 
07.08.10 The Conveni Portable (Hamster)
07.15.10 Busou Shinki: Battle Masters (Konami)
07.15.10 Hello Kitty to Issho! Block Crash 123!! (Dorart)
07.15.10 Last Ranker (Capcom)
07.15.10 Naruto Shippuden: Kizuna Drive (Bandai)
07.22.10 Ace Combat X2: Joint Assault (Namco)
07.22.10 Fate/Extra (Marvelous) 
07.22.10 Nisenochigiri (Idea Factory) 
07.29.10 GA: Geijutsuka Art Design Class: Slapstick Wonder Land (Russel) 
07.29.10 Hatsune Miku: Project Diva 2nd (Sega) 
07.29.10 Koisuru Otome to Shugo no Tate Portable (Alchemist) 
07.29.10 Ys vs. Sora no Kiseki: Alternative Saga (Falcom) 
08.05.10 Corpse Party: Blood Covered: Repeated Fear (5bp.games)
09.30.10 Starry Sky: In Summer: PSP Edition (Asgard) 
12.22.10 Starry Sky: In Autumn: PSP Edition (Asgard)
03.24.11 Starry Sky: In Winter: PSP Edition (Asgard)



jarrod on 01 May 2010

ack dp!



darthdevidem01 on 01 May 2010
SaviorX said:
Shame; Wii got the shaft.
I have the feeling though that some time soon such neglect will return to bite people in the ass.

No matter though; smaller teams will make way for next gen. It is only a matter of time. You wonder though why Japan bitches sometimes about gaming dying, yet they won't support the console that most people in their country want.

The only reason this 'core/un-comatose' audience they praise is on the PS3 or 360 is because they have thrown literally hundreds of those titles their way, and gave the Wii about 3 dozen. If the Wii got at least 25% more from the get-go they wouldn't be in such dire straits for a global audience.

on the other hand if PS3 got all those JRPG's/Ace Combat 6 from the get go it would have been much stronger too. PS3 missed out on boosts from fanbase for the new Tales of a gen, new Star Ocean of a gen, new Ace Combat of a gen. Not to mention the Sakaguchi games.

But Companies put them on 360 as they thought they could penetrate the Western Market by being on 360 only (Ps3 was doing less than GBA monthly in NA then).....but now FF13 doubled 360 versions sales in NA showing which console had the affinity for JRPG sales. Its been a whole round of bad decisions but things have improved greatly now with Xenoblade & The Last Story announcements!



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