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It should be punished in every instance. 1 6.67%
 
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I would like to open a question for the VGChartz community: Should claims rejecting official video game shipment, sale, or financial/fiscal data be allowed on this site? Or should moderation step in?

Let me be crystal clear in saying that I personally do not hold a stance one way or the other; however, I do perceive that remarks of this sort often are employed not in a thoughtful nor good faith manner, thereby accomplishing nothing more than antagonization and circular arguing. See the thread “The Road of 160+ mil for Nintendo Switch” for a demonstration of such behaviors.

Last edited by firebush03 - on 15 November 2025

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firebush03 said:

I would like to open a question for the VGChartz community: Should claims rejecting official video game shipment, sale, or financial/fiscal data be allowed on this site? Or should moderation step in?

Let me be crystal clear in saying that I personally do not hold a stance one way or the other; however, I do perceive that remarks of this sort often are employed not in a thoughtful nor good faith manner, thereby accomplishing nothing more than antagonization and circular arguing. See the thread “The Road of 160+ mil for Nintendo Switch” for a demonstration of such behaviors.

I believe the figures your referring to involves the PS2. Where the last official financial data that Sony provided was a figure of 155m. Then recently Sony provided a figure of 160.0m on their website which is not official financial data as its never been audited like figures usually are when quarterly data is provided to the stock market. 

This of course causes a lot of debate. Which is natural on a sales tracking website. Obviously this could have been avoided if Sony had kept reporting sales data for the PS2 until it was discontinued. But that's all in the past now. 

As long as the comments from either side isn't too nasty then I don't see any reason why people can't give their opinion on where they feel the PS2 actually sits. 



FlashmanHarry said:

I believe the figures your referring to involves the PS2. Where the last official financial data that Sony provided was a figure of 155m. Then recently Sony provided a figure of 160.0m on their website which is not official financial data as its never been audited like figures usually are when quarterly data is provided to the stock market. 

This of course causes a lot of debate. Which is natural on a sales tracking website. Obviously this could have been avoided if Sony had kept reporting sales data for the PS2 until it was discontinued. But that's all in the past now. 

As long as the comments from either side isn't too nasty then I don't see any reason why people can't give their opinion on where they feel the PS2 actually sits. 

That’s very well said!



People must be free to make fools of themselves.



Nah moderation is not necessary. If you try to dispute cold, hard, timely provided numbers like those given by nintendo you will be promptly refuted and maybe even mocked. But when it comes to the ps2 situation and sony's "creative accounting" (as put by certain AI) well... you can't really blame people for disputing them.



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FlashmanHarry said:
firebush03 said:

I would like to open a question for the VGChartz community: Should claims rejecting official video game shipment, sale, or financial/fiscal data be allowed on this site? Or should moderation step in?

Let me be crystal clear in saying that I personally do not hold a stance one way or the other; however, I do perceive that remarks of this sort often are employed not in a thoughtful nor good faith manner, thereby accomplishing nothing more than antagonization and circular arguing. See the thread “The Road of 160+ mil for Nintendo Switch” for a demonstration of such behaviors.

I believe the figures your referring to involves the PS2. Where the last official financial data that Sony provided was a figure of 155m. Then recently Sony provided a figure of 160.0m on their website which is not official financial data as its never been audited like figures usually are when quarterly data is provided to the stock market. 

This of course causes a lot of debate. Which is natural on a sales tracking website. Obviously this could have been avoided if Sony had kept reporting sales data for the PS2 until it was discontinued. But that's all in the past now. 

As long as the comments from either side isn't too nasty then I don't see any reason why people can't give their opinion on where they feel the PS2 actually sits. 

Yeah, if we were to punish people who reject official financial data, everyone saying the PS2 sold more than 155m would be punished.



I don't see how this is fundamentally any different from other facts/misinformation, so for the most part, it should probably not be moderated. If it's clear that the person in question knows (and I mean knows, just not 'should know') he's spreading misinformation, then moderation might be in order, but generally, this sounds like something that's not worth moderating and might in fact be detrimental to discussion if moderated.



VAMatt said:

People must be free to make fools of themselves.

lol!



As long as confirmation bias is a thing humans suffer from and there is a virtual place to express it, this is always happen. We can moderate it out, if we want, but not many people would be willing to commit to that level of baby-sitting... as pleasant as it would be for the rest of us.

Last edited by JackHandy - on 17 November 2025

I strongly support freedom of expression so I'm in favour of people being free to make fools of themselves. Part of the fun of discussion is refuting clear nonsense though it can get annoying if the person is clearly trolling and keeps repeating false things on purpose.