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Was pretty interesting, I do agree the market is definitely shifting, but I feel that there will always be a place for dedicated console gamers



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Ljink96 said:
Reggie: "What's the best graphics card we can put in this thing" THANK YOU REGGIE.

That's all what these consoles are about and what they'll be about in the future. CPU and GPU. Like I said, anybody can engineer greater graphics and cpus it takes risks to do what Nintendo is doing. They aren't playing it safe, it works sometimes and it bombs other times. That's how companies grow and stay alive.

If Nintendo just made a PS4 Pro clone with a Nintendo skin I don't know how great that console would do. But Reggie giving that parental control BS in rebuttal to Matpat is was terrible. He didn't even address the question... I'll wait until E3 to judge Reggie's 3rd party support claims.

How would the console be not as great if it cloned PS4's 3rd party and appealed to more people?  Nintendo hasn't made a great console since the SNES due to lack of 3rd party.  They miss out on entire genres, have huge droughts and Nintendo fans damage control saying they're not interested in 3rd party as much or hide behind the PC saying the other consoles are too similar.  That's not really the point.  All Nintendo does is make secondary consoles and some people want them to try to make a primary console.  Making a regular home console would not bottleneck development of 1st party games in any way, and the only thing Nintendo is good at selling is 1st party games and amiibos as far as consoles go.  If anything they need higher production values and simple features to make gaming on a Nintendo console convenient like good online, a hard drive for digital games, an ethernet port, ect.  I don't see how you guys are happy with buying a $70 controller when you didn't ask for HD rumble saying its innovative.  Not having analog triggers is innovative?  Every Nintendo platform (Handheld or console) has declined in software and hardware sales besides the 7th gen variants.  Their best console is the SNES and it had great features, they don't need to bottleneck themselves, limit the appeal and "innovate" for no reason to make a good console.



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anyone who knows anything about where Nintendo makes a lot of its profits is aware that they woulds be hurting themselves gigantically by no longer selling accessories and losing creative control to some degree.

They have no incentive to go third party, it will not result in more revenue as they will no longer have accessories, console hardware (which they do in fact usually make something on), no virtual console, etc. Would have to share software revenue with console manuafacturer's

 

they are safer having their own hardware and have too much money in the bank to justify going first party. the whiners who don't want to buy a Nintendo system but want to play their games are the ones who suggest they go third party over and over again

Nintendo having their own system is crucial to their creative control



Barkley said:
rjason12 said:

Have you ever thought that maybe people think the same exact way about PlayStation or Xbox? Maybe I don't want to pay 400$ for something I don't want (or even if it's cheaper). I mean if you don't want to buy "inferior hardware" then go PC, because the other two are outdated almost as soon as they are released. People are acting like the Switch is super "inferior" when the hardware is like comparing apples to oranges. 

Yeah there's people that do, but judging by hardware sales it's no where near as many, regardless I was talking about my personal opinion.

I prefer console gaming for a variety of reasons, and for the price the power you recieve from ps4/xbo is cost effective. Switch isn't even close. As for apples and oranges... well hardware isn't that difficult to compare, the features you can't compare such as portability, hd rumble and the weird IR rock paper scissors tech I don't really care for.

Switch is underpowered hardware with many features I don't care for, I don't want it. But If the must-have games come I'll have to buy one, with a bitter taste in my mouth.

It is hard to compare when they are drastically different pieces of hardware, those two run on AMD, and Nintendo runs through Nvidia. I wasn't talking about specific features. And the point still stands, PS4 and xbone are drastically underpowered compared to gaming pcs. I don't have one myself, but my buddy's pc blows current consoles out of the water, and he didn't spend too much on it, he's also getting a Switch because for Nintendo games. That's the reason you always hear people having pcs and Nintendo, not pcs and xbone/PlayStation.

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Plus as you pointed out. You would have to buy their system in order to get their games. They know at the very least (like the Wii U pointed out) that a core amount of people will buy their systems to play their games. Close to 14 million consoles sold almost solely on their first party offerings (which at some points had droughts).



mountaindewslave said:

anyone who knows anything about where Nintendo makes a lot of its profits is aware that they woulds be hurting themselves gigantically by no longer selling accessories and losing creative control to some degree.

They have no incentive to go third party, it will not result in more revenue as they will no longer have accessories, console hardware (which they do in fact usually make something on), no virtual console, etc. Would have to share software revenue with console manuafacturer's

 

they are safer having their own hardware and have too much money in the bank to justify going first party. the whiners who don't want to buy a Nintendo system but want to play their games are the ones who suggest they go third party over and over again

Nintendo having their own system is crucial to their creative control

Exactly! People don't seem to understand this. They also make more money as they don't have to give any one else a cut of the profits of their games since they are released specifically by them and to their console. 



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Hardware built around the software/user experience?

Crazy idea.



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Reggie telling the fanboys who's boss. Good on ya Reg. Innovation is the only reason I'm interested in the Switch. Unlike the simple PCs like PS4 and XB1 which offer 1 or 2 good exclusives a years which can be played on any device if they wanted them to, due to there games lacking innovations. Maybe Sony and Xbox should go 3rd party that way Nintendo can continue to innovate.



At the end of the day it is all about profit, if Nintendo can make more money from a somewhat console business, then to potentially getting 50 percent and above on first party title sales then they shouldn't go third party.



Yerm said:
They've had a good run but its time to let the dream go. People dont want "new inventive controls" to play video games anymore. we want something more conventional and more powerful. and if Nintendo had their games on other consoles they would look better, play better, and sell better. Come on guys, we all know its time.

There's no way to officially know that at all. Hell if you wanna get technical and something to compare it to, look at the massive downward spiral Sega has had since they left hardware. They literally almost exclusively put out sonic titles.



DannyDesario said:

Gotta love nintendo fans hiding behind daddy PC in the comments. Just like Sony guys did last gen with valve games and mass effect. "Nintendo has games you can't get on other platforms, I can get everything on PC" Instead of acknowledging Nintendo has bad 3rd party.  Anyways, it would be cool to see them go 3rd party IMO since they're good devs and bad hardware manufacturers.  

Gotta love the constant "Nintendo go third party threads". I've  been hearing this nonsense for 15+ years, and from what I've heard, it's been like that for years before. The fact is that people want their games. They're just upset that they have to buy another console for it. I can guarantee that if Nintendo put out a console similar to the competition with the same features, online, and games. People still wouldn't buy their console s due to brand loyalty. There has always been a "kiddie" stigma behind Nintendo, that keeps people from buying their consoles. I'd compare it to how kids act in school, they don't want to be different and be made fun of, just like people don't want to be made fun of for gaming on Nintendo. Can't tell you how many times I have been treated like shit just because of the video game system I own, like they think they're better than others because of their choice. But you guys have to deal with it. If you want their games, buy their consoles, just like if Nintendo gamers want uncharted or halo, they have to buy those consoles.