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Why don't you?

The complaints I see are emotional violent insult laden responses that don't address the issue and don't validly counter the arguments. I believe each of these evils/sins/cash grabs can be done well, and the problems people have with them are actually just aspects of bad game design rather than the practices being inherently evil.

Despite being a sales site the lack of rational objective thought appauls me, the only difference being more diversity than more popular sites by virtue of the moderation team.

So that I can better understand your viewpoints feel free to explain what you like and dislike about any of the things I listed in the title, whether or not they can be done well, and what it would take in your opinion for them to be done well. Feel free to let your biases and allegiances run wild or restrain yourself to utilize objective reason?

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I love everything too... On PlayStation.



ethomaz said:

I love everything too... On PlayStation.

Well I'm shocked.



What I dislike is that they hardly ever are done right. I say "I hate DLC/micro-transactions" the same way I say I hate cats. So much potential lost in execution.



DLCs can be great as long as they are really extra content and not content which would be already in the game without this possibility. I mean, stuff like the Skyrim DLC in Minecraft wouldn't be in the game if there wouldn't be stuff like DLC so that I don't know ho you could complain about that but I think as example many competetive multiplayer games would already have more maps from beginning if they wouldn't know that they can sell you some of the maps they already created in a later DLC.

I think I never paid for a micro-transaction so that I can't really tell if it was worth it but it's pretty much the same with this, as long as it isn't something which would be in the game for free without this function it can be a nice addition for some people



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Everytime a company ports a game, kupomogli kills a kitten.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

I don't mind ports or micro transactions for that matter. I don't see why bringing the game to another console is ever a bad thing, just as long as they port it proper.

As far as micro transactions go I like them if done properly. GW2 did them well, it never felt required but added some nice cosmetics to your characters. Its not good when it feel like you have to buy it just to beat the game, looking at you timesaver packs, I feel like companies put an obsessive amount a collectables around and make it a grind to them just so you pay the 4.99 that tells you where they all are so you don't spend hours upon hours wandering around, I thought AC4 was guilty of this I spent about 10 bucks on timesaver packs.

Basically in the case of AC4- micro trans to get Black Sails, fine. Micro trans to make all "secrets" show on your map, not cool.



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I don't mind anything in gaming. It's not like it's hurting me.



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Like many people, none of these bother me, it's when any of them are used as a cash grab. For instance the Mass Effect DLC was generally well put together, interesting and worth the price, as was much of the Borderlands and Fallout DLC. However the CoD map packs always seemed like a massive rip off to me, hence why I never bought one.

Micropayments also are something I don't mind in the right context. Wii Karaoke U for example works very well, song downloads in Guitar Hero/Rock Band as well. But then there's horse armour...

For me, it essentially boils down to, 'is this worth my time and money?' If the answer is no I don't bother, or feel ripped off, if the answer is yes I will buy and be happy.



It depends. All of that is good, ports, new games, all of it. It caters for a market and as long as it's a decent price then it is worth while. DLC (expansion packs) are good, they extend the game, they add to the characters/story/gameplay. Even micro-transactions are okay by me as long as the main game isn't hurt by it (as in locking off certain stuff if you don't pay). ME3 did it well with it's MP, a MP that shouldn't have existed but it did it well.

But what I don't like is exploitive DLC, selling things as extra just to gain extra income, charging well over what things should be worth for it, things like that. Camos on CoD, £2 for a digital camo? That's stupid. I feel for every DLC they sell to make money, they should do some that they give for nothing. Keep people interested and playing.

This said, I don't buy any of it. But if the resources creating this content means the finished product I do buy is feels 'less' because of it.



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