Blu-Rays may not be big enough for Square-Enix

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JEMC on 02 July 2012

A few days ago, the site RPGSite had the chance to interview Yoshihisa Hashimoto, the Chief Technical Officer at S-E and the guy who made the Luminous Engine Demo.

You can read the whole interview here: http://www.rpgsite.net/articles/393-square-enix-luminous-studio-interview

But among other things, he said this:

RPG Site: So you're saying assets created for CG can be bought straight down into the game and the reverse in this new engine?
Hashimoto: Yeah, that's what we're expecting to do. For the backgrounds used in this - the mountains, the houses - we are using exactly the same assets as are used in the Visual Works CG version.

Of course, it's too massive of a data to use in a game as-is, but I think the look and feel will probably remain. If we had time, we could've compressed the data even smaller. We didn't have time to do that, so we just used the same master data - but it can definitely be reduced.

RPG Site: Do you think that disc space is going to be an issue, then, even on Blu-ray?
Hashimoto: Yeah, that could be a challenge. There's a possibility that just one Blu-ray may not be sufficient.
RPG Site: Back to the PS1 days!
Hashimoto: [laughs] Yeah. We have to really consider the mechanism of compressing the data carefully.

Really? 25/50 GB is not enough for them?

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Andrespetmonkey on 02 July 2012

Well next gen 50gb will be at least standard for Blu-rays I imagine, maybe we will see triple layer blu rays as well (100 gb). They'll be able to get their shit on there.

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haxxiy on 02 July 2012

Don't top line blu-rays manage to store even more than 50GB?

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haxxiy said:
Don't top line blu-rays manage to store even more than 50GB?

Up to 128gb I think

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Andrespetmonkey said:

haxxiy said:
Don't top line blu-rays manage to store even more than 50GB?

Up to 128gb I think

Indeed, there are discs with 100 and 128GB and are called BDXL.

I wonder how much of that needed space will go for the game, and how much for the CGIs.

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Hopefully they can build a good game around their amazing graphics.

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JEMC said:

Andrespetmonkey said:

haxxiy said:
Don't top line blu-rays manage to store even more than 50GB?

Up to 128gb I think

Indeed, there are discs with 100 and 128GB and are called BDXL.

I wonder how much of that needed space will go for the game, and how much for the CGIs.

I hope they forget about CGI altogether next-gen.

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Dgc1808 on 02 July 2012

Maybe if they cut down on the cgi cutscenes....

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BasilZero said:
Damn, imagine multi blu-ray disc games, hopefully it'll be as good as the PSX era of FF....although very unlikely at this point.

Blu-rays were too small practically as they were released. The Lord of the Rings films already need to be split to two duellayer blu-rays. Or Blade Runner (7 disc set.) that was insane. And as 4k TVs start coming out we will need a much better format than blu-ray. Unfortunately, I don't think it is coming any time soon.