FF 7 Rebirth story is so baffingly stupid.

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Xxain said:

LegitHyperbole said:

I'm well aware that FF does sci fi with fantady from the start but they still have to make you believe it and such inconsistencies don't make for believability, FF14 the MMOs plot went absolutely nuts in the expansions main quests alone, they went bonkers mad but it all stayed consistent and believable, even when they'd do a cross over between feanchises it felt believable and they done it by remaining consistent and not having their hands in conflicting elements and plot devices.

You know who does the wackiest, strangest stories and mixes in heavy scifi with fantasy elements, is Kojima and because of his tone and the way he crafts the world in believability with the silliest answers to the silliest questions it creates an immensely immersive believability in stories that if you pulled back for a second and questioned it you surely go, that's a load of nonsense. He does it also through tone also and from the start sets the rules by answering loads of questions to get you 8nvested where later he can pull out insane amounts of mystery and wonder but keep you grounded in the campiest of plots.

It's possible, it's been done in FF before but definitely not in Rebirths case. 

You can't compare Final Fantasy to Metal Gear. Metal Gears is based on the real world with sci-fi super natural elements. Because its based on the real world there is an expectation that when the sci-fi/super natural pop up there is a grounded explanation for it. No such explanation exist for Final Fantasy or fantasy in general. In a fantasy there is no need to explain why characters shoot fireballs. The genre is explanation enough; Final Fantasy falls into that category. You are looking for a grounded explanation ... in a fantasy game. 

I'm comparing it to death Stranding. Both are essentially the same plot on the surface, extinction level event set in paranormal fantasy worlds they even have the same themes and anime inspired characters just a different coat of paint. 

Also there is a need to explain that stuff and it's done quite well in FF games with aether and life energy. If there was no need to explain it Mako could be the planets cum but they do explain Mako and magic in the FF games. Even FF16 which is heavily based on the idea that you have played FF before to get it and know what the what and who the eikons are, to yhe point it almost expects it of you yet it has extensive amounts of lore as a mechanic you can pull up at any time for what's happening on screen at any one moment should you need explanation. 

What your saying is Toilken or George R.R.Martin should be able to get away with Deus ex machina or logical inconsistencies cause of the genre over someone doing a drama, no. In fact zi'd argue they have to go to greater lengths to explain stuff and both do exactly that and avoid deus ex machina the most out of all genres cause it would be so easily fallen into by mistake. 

Last edited by LegitHyperbole - on 02 April 2025