What does Putin want with Ukraine

[Mnementh]

Kasz216 said:

Mnementh said:

Sharu said:No. I have some pieces of info pointing on it, but no proof.

By the way, do you have any proof that Yanukovich ordered snipers to shoot people?

Oh no, the unfaillable west and the maidan claimed that the snipers were from Yanukovich. That does not need to be proofed, just beli3ve!!!!

If you have some points that pointstoward another explanation (as unearthed), that is not enough to beat the claims of the West. You have to provide proof, and double that. Because the western government never ever lie or claim stuff without evidence. Like WMDs in Iraq.

I'm guessing you don't know much about the whole WMD's in iraq thing outside the fact that there weren't any there, if you think the Sharu/West is behind everything statements remotely are the same.

There was plenty of evidence pointing to Iraq having WMDs.  Just none of it ended up being true.  The Bush administration more or less got taken in by info they wanted to believe provided by third parties, while ignore other information.

It's a much more fascinating story then simply "Bush made up some stuff".

LOL, I guess you don't know much about the missing EWMD-thing. There was ONE source, and the reliability of that source was already doubted internally in secret services. Even with public information at the time it was pretty unlikely the Iraq had WMDs. Most sane people were pointing to the missing proofs and even indications towards this theory. At the time was an official UN-inspection already running - instead of waiting for a result the war was started.

The Bush-administration was all aware of it, but ignored it to have a pretty thin reason to go to war. But the claim the Iraq had WMDs was as believable as now Putins claim the unmarked soldiers in crimea are not russian. In europe (except UK) the war against iraq wasn't justified with WMDs, as even our leaders didn't thought that anyone would buy that here.