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You concerned yet?

Yes 78 47.85%
 
No, but I will be followi... 49 30.06%
 
No, its being overblown 36 22.09%
 
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crissindahouse said:

And some people still say it's just a media hype. 

It's the fallout of fake news and people believing we have everything under control or it won't happen to them that might spiral this out of control. It's not so much that the disease will cripple humanity, it's mostly the reaction, disbelief, unwillingness to prepare to mitigate the effects, then panic, that will do the most harm. Meanwhile the commercials for cheap holiday destinations are still happily playing while McDs is advertising family night!



Ka-pi96 said:
Metallox said:

What do you do for a living? 

I'm a teacher, and schools are being closed. Not sure exactly what's going to happen yet, I've just heard "we're probably closing from Monday" so far.

No offence to your work but closing schools os the best bet at saving lives and slowing the spread at this point without fucking our economies. You should be paid of course for leave but if not, it's better than your student body dying. The kids are most at risk and the old of course but they also are walking germ factories, more lives than just the kids could be saved by the school closure. Hope you get bqck paid at least. 



 

SpokenTruth said:
This is not a bio weapon. If it were, it's a an abject failure. Why use a strain of a virus that is already well known? You also don't release on your own people.

Why is it always the far left who can't see qhat is right in front of them. There's a bio lab down the street from ground zero, it may not be a bio weapon but it is almost certainly engineered and to what end? It also doesn't need to be a purposeful release, why would it? You've got to be stupid or ignorant to think this isn't a lab breach and considering it's characteristics, it wasn't just being studied with no end goal, almsot certainly being altered. 



 

John2290 said:
SpokenTruth said:
This is not a bio weapon. If it were, it's a an abject failure. Why use a strain of a virus that is already well known? You also don't release on your own people.

Why is it always the far left who can't see qhat is right in front of them. There's a bio lab down the street from ground zero, it may not be a bio weapon but it is almost certainly engineered and to what end? It also doesn't need to be a purposeful release, why would it? You've got to be stupid or ignorant to think this isn't a lab breach and considering it's characteristics, it wasn't just being studied with no end goal, almsot certainly being altered. 

The Corona virus is known since the 60s and those animals you got at ground zero can have it in them. 

But I guess you can always find something else if you need to fit it in a conspiracy theory. Why it's always the not so far left who love conspiracy theories?



John2290 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

I'm a teacher, and schools are being closed. Not sure exactly what's going to happen yet, I've just heard "we're probably closing from Monday" so far.

No offence to your work but closing schools os the best bet at saving lives and slowing the spread at this point without fucking our economies. You should be paid of course for leave but if not, it's better than your student body dying. The kids are most at risk and the old of course but they also are walking germ factories, more lives than just the kids could be saved by the school closure. Hope you get bqck paid at least. 

Oh yeah, I get why they're closing and I'm not going to complain about getting some extra time off. The issue is pay, I just moved house and am kind of broke because of that, so if this affects my pay I could have some problems.

And kids actually might be the least at risk. I actually saw an article the other day suggesting they're more resistant to the disease. There have been less kids affected by it and the symptoms seem to be less severe in kids too. Of course that could be partially due to people being more careful around kids, so as not to spread the disease, but still maybe kids are just more resistant to this one.



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Ka-pi96 said:
John2290 said:

No offence to your work but closing schools os the best bet at saving lives and slowing the spread at this point without fucking our economies. You should be paid of course for leave but if not, it's better than your student body dying. The kids are most at risk and the old of course but they also are walking germ factories, more lives than just the kids could be saved by the school closure. Hope you get bqck paid at least. 

Oh yeah, I get why they're closing and I'm not going to complain about getting some extra time off. The issue is pay, I just moved house and am kind of broke because of that, so if this affects my pay I could have some problems.

And kids actually might be the least at risk. I actually saw an article the other day suggesting they're more resistant to the disease. There have been less kids affected by it and the symptoms seem to be less severe in kids too. Of course that could be partially due to people being more careful around kids, so as not to spread the disease, but still maybe kids are just more resistant to this one.

Babies are a risk and badly developed children and the elderly, but mostly kids are best in overcoming viruses yes and that is why it is important to gain resistance to most of those viruses as a kid cause when you first encounter some of them when older it will make you a lot more sick.



Ka-pi96 said:
John2290 said:

No offence to your work but closing schools os the best bet at saving lives and slowing the spread at this point without fucking our economies. You should be paid of course for leave but if not, it's better than your student body dying. The kids are most at risk and the old of course but they also are walking germ factories, more lives than just the kids could be saved by the school closure. Hope you get bqck paid at least. 

Oh yeah, I get why they're closing and I'm not going to complain about getting some extra time off. The issue is pay, I just moved house and am kind of broke because of that, so if this affects my pay I could have some problems.

And kids actually might be the least at risk. I actually saw an article the other day suggesting they're more resistant to the disease. There have been less kids affected by it and the symptoms seem to be less severe in kids too. Of course that could be partially due to people being more careful around kids, so as not to spread the disease, but still maybe kids are just more resistant to this one.

The question is, can they carry the disease and infect others. That's still unknown.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/27/coronavirus-kids-what-role-transmission/

Though the evidence to date suggests this virus doesn’t inflict severe disease on children, there’s reason to think kids may be helping to amplify transmission. It’s a role they play to devastating effect during flu season, becoming ill and passing flu viruses on to their parents, grandparents, teachers, and caregivers.

While the new virus is from a different viral family, its behavior is more like influenza than its coronavirus cousins, SARS and MERS, making experts wonder if it is doing the same.

“Flu is clearly driven in part by schools. And we don’t understand what goes on with coronaviruses and kids — especially this coronavirus,”


There are also still many unknowns on how to protect yourself

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/02/unmasked-experts-explain-necessary-respiratory-protection-covid-19

Michael Osterholm, PhD, MPH, director of the University of Minnesota's Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, which publishes CIDRAP News, says, "The very unsettling data regarding the number of infected healthcare workers in the Wuhan area and the infection of a Japanese doctor working with those quarantined on the cruise ship and who used standard PPE [personal protective equipment]—except for a surgical mask instead of an N95 respirator—should be a real wake-up call to all of us about how do we really protect against this critical occupational risk."


Surgical masks will certainly help, but safety is not guaranteed.



crissindahouse said:

The Corona virus is known since the 60s and those animals you got at ground zero can have it in them. 

But I guess you can always find something else if you need to fit it in a conspiracy theory. Why it's always the not so far left who love conspiracy theories?

to be more precise "corona virus" is a family of viruses, this specific "species" is a relative of SARS and hence the virus is officially named SARS-CoV-2 (and the illness is covid-19) - only 7 corona virus species are known to infect humans, 4 of them "common cold"s, MERS, SARS and the new one

several good RNA matches were found in different animals of the region, not a 100% one, which was super unlikely from the start as this is an RNA virus, meaning their genome is relatively unstable and changing all the time (samples from different human patients don't give out 100% matches either)

the origin of this one is very likely to be bats, as they are known to host hundreds of different corona virus species, but the strains in them tend to be hyperaggressive as bats have extremely good immune systems - SARS-CoV-2 is not that aggressive, so researchers do suspect there was an intermediate host before it made the jump to humans



crissindahouse said:
John2290 said:

Why is it always the far left who can't see qhat is right in front of them. There's a bio lab down the street from ground zero, it may not be a bio weapon but it is almost certainly engineered and to what end? It also doesn't need to be a purposeful release, why would it? You've got to be stupid or ignorant to think this isn't a lab breach and considering it's characteristics, it wasn't just being studied with no end goal, almsot certainly being altered. 

The Corona virus is known since the 60s and those animals you got at ground zero can have it in them. 

But I guess you can always find something else if you need to fit it in a conspiracy theory. Why it's always the not so far left who love conspiracy theories?

Conspiracy theory, yeah yeah. It's basic common sense. A lab with multiple reported, near breachs less than a quarter mile away from the first reported case that is handling Cornoviruses and you reckon it's a coincidence. That's not to mention the swath of experts saying that the fish market wasn't where the outbreak started and happened weeks before. To answer your question, for the simple reason that the far left never question anything and live like sheep herded by their propagandist puppeteers be it media, College professors or their gut feelings. 



 

John2290 said:
crissindahouse said:

The Corona virus is known since the 60s and those animals you got at ground zero can have it in them. 

But I guess you can always find something else if you need to fit it in a conspiracy theory. Why it's always the not so far left who love conspiracy theories?

Conspiracy theory, yeah yeah. It's basic common sense. A lab with multiple reported, near breachs less than a quarter mile away from the first reported case that is handling Cornoviruses and you reckon it's a coincidence. That's not to mention the swath of experts saying that the fish market wasn't where the outbreak started and happened weeks before. To answer your question, for the simple reason that the far left never question anything and live like sheep herded by their propagandist puppeteers be it media, College professors or their gut feelings. 

Who wants to address the irony here?



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