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MS is 3rd party for Playstation with Minecraft so it's only fair that Sony puts something on Windows.

I think it's great that Sony is heading down the same path as MS or Sega.



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DonFerrari said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Fucking what? All the talk you make about how great Sony software is and supporting Sony and devs and just because they put games on PC you’d start pirating all of it? Nonsense. 

I love my pocket much more than Sony, and I wouldn't stop playing the games I would stop expending money.

Exactly. Much better to save the cash and give it directly to Nvidia and AMD so they can spend it on improving graphics tech instead of R+D for Bluray or VR or whatever.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

0D0 said:
Zoombael said:
Sony to give away their guns when they require them the most? This level of incompetence i expect from Microsoft.

This is my first gut feeling reaction too.

We're getting to an age where consoles are just tech boxes that run games. Sony first party content is one of the best Sony strengths.

Skeeuk said:

Terrible move imo. if PS exclusives start hitting PC then I'd just beef up my pc rig and skip PS5 

Yeah. We've got to see if it'll be a move for all first party content or just a few gems to sort of market PS content.

Cerebralbore101 said:

It's a bad thing for consumers in the long run. PS5 isn't going to do very well compared to PS4, which will speed up the move to a streaming, and digital-only future, where games are sold for daylight robbery prices. Oh this game is two years old? Lol we want $60 for a digital copy! Now you're forced to either wait for a "sale" at 30% off, or pay our extortion prices! Meanwhile that same game would be found for $20 at a used game shop.

Digital games prices need to be $45 at launch, $30 after a year, and $15 after a year and a half. You aren't paying for anything other than a packet of information. Producing a million digital copies costs about the same as producing ten million digital copies. They don't have any overhead like console publishing fees, shipping costs, returns, etc. That saved money should be passed on to the consumer. Instead publishers aim to screw their customers and make as much money as quickly as possible.

The packet of information is the game which is the product that you're buying.

Besides as much everybody would want your price logic to be true, the fact is that that's not how market prices work. In economy and trade, price is not the sum of all costs. Price equation is far more complicated than that but to sum it up, it's mostly the perceived market value of the product.

Yeah, yeah, I can sell my toilet water to a guy in the desert that's dying of thirst for $100 a bottle. I suppose you are one of those people that thinks the American healthcare system has every right to charge hundreds for insulin too huh?

Supply of digital copies is infinite. Why doesn't price go down? The market is rigged, that's why. Killing off physical games is just further rigging of the market.



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I'm excited! I've wanted to play this game for a while, but I don't have a PS4. This could be a marketing move to entice PC owners to buy a PS5 with Horizon 2.



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Pyro as Bill said:
MS is 3rd party for Playstation with Minecraft so it's only fair that Sony puts something on Windows.

I think it's great that Sony is heading down the same path as MS or Sega.

Well they are making MLB The Show multiplat. That is a Sony dev and game that used to be exclusive.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

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I'm mixed about this. Yeah, it's great that the game is coming to PC (blah, blah, yadda, yadda), with hopefully a fully realized graphics settings menu to allow for the game to really shine. But what this tells me about console gaming in general is that exclusives are slowly losing their status as "the current meta". In other words, this isn't so much about HZD for me as it is about the direction that home consoles are going.

Maybe the PS5/Series X will be the final home consoles (as we know it), and Sony has determined that the additional revenue they would gain from putting their exclusives on PC outweighs the value of strengthening their brand with exclusives. Sony is exchanging a part of their brand power for cash.

As a gamer who wants to see a PS5, PS6, PS7, etcetera, it scares me a little bit to see them make moves like this.

Maybe this is too dramatic, but it's partly how I feel (and am not ashamed to admit it):

Let me take you back to March of 2017... Horizon was a PlayStation game. The Switch had just released. Both BotW and Horizon were critically acclaimed. It was a PlayStation versus Nintendo thing... Hordes of PlayStation fans grabbed their pitchforks and went to MC to give BotW a low user-score, while legions of Nintendo fans put on their favorite musk and review-bombed Horizon in what was colloquially known as the biggest circle-jerk in videogame history.

These are people who never even played the game they are leaving a sore review for. Aloy represented PlayStation, while Link represented Nintendo. And now, almost three years later, we come to find out that Horizon is no longer going to be a PlayStation exclusive. Seriously?! Countless Sony fans put their ass on the line during the aforementioned circle jerk, and now they just get thrown under the bus. It's like joining the Air Force, going to war, and then coming back home four years later to be stripped of your citizenship. It's feel bad man.

(Just in case you couldn't tell, the second half of my post was a joke.)



Cerebralbore101 said:
0D0 said:

This is my first gut feeling reaction too.

We're getting to an age where consoles are just tech boxes that run games. Sony first party content is one of the best Sony strengths.

Yeah. We've got to see if it'll be a move for all first party content or just a few gems to sort of market PS content.

The packet of information is the game which is the product that you're buying.

Besides as much everybody would want your price logic to be true, the fact is that that's not how market prices work. In economy and trade, price is not the sum of all costs. Price equation is far more complicated than that but to sum it up, it's mostly the perceived market value of the product.

Yeah, yeah, I can sell my toilet water to a guy in the desert that's dying of thirst for $100 a bottle. I suppose you are one of those people that thinks the American healthcare system has every right to charge hundreds for insulin too huh?

Supply of digital copies is infinite. Why doesn't price go down? The market is rigged, that's why. Killing off physical games is just further rigging of the market.

What I think, want or like doesn't matter. Just saying how price works in the real world. Besides supply doesn't matter either in terms of software and entertainment industry, because they're selling experiences and services.

For example, you don't pay for a cinema ticket a fraction of the cost of the film, you pay for that 2h experience. When you buy a Windows 10 copy, you're not paying for the copy of software, you're paying for a service that includes support, updates, and guaranteed operation for a decade or so.

Well, I suppose you know all that, so you get my point.

I'm not saying that you don't have point when the digital infrastructure could devalue the market the way mp3 did with music, but it's still another point, because it's not just like cutting the price of the disc per copy and many would argue that games have become quite less expensive in the last 20 years due to inflation.



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When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

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Just realised... with games like Uncharted, GoW, Horizon, Spiderman already selling 10m-15m, releasing on PC could be the thing that finally tips Sony's first party sales ahead of Nintendo's... xD

This is Sony's master plan to get Horizon sales back above BOTW.

We need to get Uncharted 4 above 20m!



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Barkley said:

Just realised... with games like Uncharted, GoW, Horizon, Spiderman already selling 10m-15m, releasing on PC could be the thing that finally tips Sony's first party sales ahead of Nintendo's... xD

This is Sony's master plan to get Horizon sales back above BOTW.

We need to get Uncharted 4 above 20m!

Switch software comes with a handheld game and a home console game so you have to double their sales and subtract any sales for Switch Lite.

It's the rules.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

I can see them doing in the future what Rockstar is doing, console release first, then year later a PC release...after all, it works for Rockstar.