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Rab said:
Raven said:

The report that the Hill covered in regards to Biden's education was covered by a news station decades ago, it's not a revelatory development.

There's also merit to someone not wanting to dredge up archives that would just provide material for your opposition to nitpick and manipulate during an election year. He has stated that if there were such a complaint, it would be contained within the National Archives and has given permission to access those files. The Republican-led Senate blocked it. Gee, I wonder why they might want to keep this circus going... Meanwhile his accuser has been found to have not only lied about her educational background (she didn't even graduate, at least Biden did even if he wasn't the top of his class), but used that lie to provide testimony under oath as an expert on issues she didn't actually have qualifications for.

Whats good for her is good for him

Biden used the falsifying in public of his education to promote his career by creating a false narrative about himself, it shines a light on the man himself, it's all relevant

If it wasn't for T. Reade making the accusations we would not know about Biden's history in so much detail or the fact he is willing to hide University records from the public view, Im sure other things will now emerge, but not from CNN or MSNBC, they have put their support squarely in Biden's camp regardless of who he really is       

This is not about who Biden really is, this is about a rape incident.  What exactly is your goal here because it seemed to move away from the rape charge to finding dirt on Biden.  It appears that now that the rape charge has enough holes in it with Reade her self not being someone trustworthy enough for her lawyer to stick it seems you have moved on to just finding other dirt on Biden instead.  It seems you have more skin in this game outside of the allegations and instead looking for anything that makes Biden look bad.  



Machiavellian said:
Rab said:

Whats good for her is good for him

Biden used the falsifying in public of his education to promote his career by creating a false narrative about himself, it shines a light on the man himself, it's all relevant

If it wasn't for T. Reade making the accusations we would not know about Biden's history in so much detail or the fact he is willing to hide University records from the public view, Im sure other things will now emerge, but not from CNN or MSNBC, they have put their support squarely in Biden's camp regardless of who he really is       

This is not about who Biden really is, this is about a rape incident.  What exactly is your goal here because it seemed to move away from the rape charge to finding dirt on Biden.  It appears that now that the rape charge has enough holes in it with Reade her self not being someone trustworthy enough for her lawyer to stick it seems you have moved on to just finding other dirt on Biden instead.  It seems you have more skin in this game outside of the allegations and instead looking for anything that makes Biden look bad.  

For me this thread is about the Dem's and Biden being the presumptive leader puts him squarely under the looking glass

The rape accusation thankfully has somewhat peeled back his cover and we are getting a look at the man under the mask, properly vetting Biden is critical for the left to have confidence in this guy, CNN, MSNBC and the Dems themselves have wrapped this guy in cotton, but what we are seeing now with his cover ups and lying about his education tells people what they need to know about this potential president     



sethnintendo said:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/tara-reade-loses-attorney-joe-biden-allegation.html

Well so much for that "scandal". Guess Fox news has to move on to just Hunter Biden.  Sure Biden makes women uncomfortable with his touching but I highly doubt he assaulted this woman who apparently is pathological liar.  I view it as same context as Bush Jr giving Merkel a back massage.

I don't get it... It literally says in the article:

"Wigdor said in a statement that the decision is 'by no means a reflection on whether then-Senator Biden sexually assaulted Ms. Reade.'"

So that article doesn't mean anything. It could or could not have happened. The only determinate now is just a personal one, whether you believe one "liar" over another.

It's funny how the same people that basically said that you shouldn't rush to conclusions and believe anyone until it's sorted out in court are now the ones rushing to conclusions...

Last edited by tsogud - on 24 May 2020

 

tsogud said:
sethnintendo said:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/tara-reade-loses-attorney-joe-biden-allegation.html

Well so much for that "scandal". Guess Fox news has to move on to just Hunter Biden.  Sure Biden makes women uncomfortable with his touching but I highly doubt he assaulted this woman who apparently is pathological liar.  I view it as same context as Bush Jr giving Merkel a back massage.

I don't get it... It literally says in the article:

"Wigdor said in a statement that the decision is 'by no means a reflection on whether then-Senator Biden sexually assaulted Ms. Reade.'"

So that article doesn't mean anything. It could or could not have happened. The only determinate now is just a personal one, whether you believe one "liar" over another.

It's funny how the same people that basically said that you shouldn't rush to conclusions and believe anyone until it's sorted out in court are now the ones rushing to conclusions...

You know she has changed her story within the past couple of years.  Just a couple years ago she was still praising Biden on his work passing the sexual assault bill.  She apparently turned on him once she realized Bernie wasn't going to win the primary.   Now she wants him to step down so guess who takes his place.

I believe perhaps Biden did make her uncomfortable through maybe some light touching on arms or whatever thus that is why she filed her initial sexual harassment case before she left.  Notice she filed for sexual harassment not sexual assault.  She wouldn't be praising Biden in just 2 or so years ago if she was really sexually assaulted.  Instead of praising him you would think she would be calling him a hypocrite.

Quoting a line from a pro Trump lawyer how she could still be victim of assault doesn't mean anything.  There are so many holes in her story and credibility issues that he had to drop her as a client.  For one not one other staffer from time she was with Biden has come forward collaborating her story.  Biden isn't perfect and he has problems getting a little too touchy with females sometimes but I highly doubt he assaulted her in a capital building hallway.  Perhaps he grabbed her ass, gave her a back massage or hugged her too long but spreading her legs and inserting his finger into her in a hallway at a capital building (she can't even remember what building it took place in)...  If she was sounding alarm back in 2008 or 2012 or 2016 then maybe I would give her benefit of doubt but to praise someone as late as 2017 doesn't add up in my book.

Last edited by sethnintendo - on 25 May 2020

Possible good news for Biden.



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He may be the next President, it's important for the Dems, Media and all potential voters to know who he is, the US needs this guy vetted or they may end up with another lame duck/corrupt president 



Democrats are almost in same position Republicans are in. They will vote for lesser of two evils according to their beliefs. I don't think there are too many undecided voters left. Our minds are already made up. They might as well have vote by mail now so Republicans can have time to make sure no voter fraud. You know it takes them awhile to figure things out. Like how they setup that voter fraud commission after Trump was in office to find voter fraud that was supposedly rampant yet they disbanded committee after few months of doing nothing. They were trying to get registration rolls to Russia probably yet some states balked at their demands.  I'm just waiting till after Trump dies to see what kind of dirt they have on Republicans.  





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Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 31 May 2020