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Rath on 20 December 2009

@Seece.

Did you accuse RATM of being slitty wrist music? They're pissed off at the government, not angsty. Theres a difference.



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highwaystar101 on 20 December 2009
Seece said:
Taz! said:
Joe was never going 2 be successful anyway, its so obvious!

He just signed a $5 mill deal with disney in America.

Sony have royally fucked him over already though. Simon Cowell got him a "£1,000,000" contract, but he is only allowed to keep £150,000, Sony have rather kindly spent £850,000 of his £1,000,000 on marketing. How nice of them to spend his cash. (Source)

 

Joe has already been fucked over by "the man".



Taz! on 20 December 2009
Seece said:
Taz! said:
Seece said:
Taz! said:
Joe was never going 2 be successful anyway, its so obvious!

He just signed a $5 mill deal with disney in America.

Suit him perfect. Anyway, I worded my point really badly - what I meant was that he was never going to be a big pop icon and have alot of success in the charts. He doesn't have the looks, presence, attitude or stlye of voice for it. He would be far better at panto, or kids songs (Disney).

Well yeah I agree, thin pickings in this years x factor though

Yea, totally agree. The quality in this years show wasn't nearly as good as before, and the final was crap compared to last year. The only act I think had a chance of being a pop success was Miss Frank because they were very similar to Destiny's Child and I think there would've been a gap for them. Anyway  



Seece on 20 December 2009
Carl2291 said:
Seece said:
Carl2291 said:
Seece said:
Carl2291 said:
Seece said:
Carl2291 said:
Seece said:
Carl2291 said:
Joe + Xfactor.

The UK just gave you a combined "Fuck off!"

Love it!

Not really

Yeah really

Funny how all of a sudden Joe couldnt make it to the studio

He congratulated them on twitter, something RATM wouldn't have done.

again I repeat, not really, you need to get a perspective carl

They congratulated him on getting 2nd place, live on air.

You need to stop defending the loser

Yes of course they did, it's a digg obviously.

I'm not defending him, his song sucked just as much as RATM

It was good, that's what it was.

You've been very defensive of him since this entire thing came onto the forums...

But hey, the majority would rather have Rage at number 1.
Hopefully Xfactor gets screwed over again next year too, but that time... With an actual Christmas song

So it was a digg and you proved my point, thanks.

I was in camp RATM when this thing started, then I actually listened to the song and realised how hostile the people (fans) behind it were and became neutral.

in reality, the UK did not stick its fingers up at simon and joe (20 million people watched the final, 1/3 of this entire country.) less than 0.1% of people bought RATM, even then it was multiple purchases from people, I doubt many that bought joes single was because they wanted to beat RATM.

Last line, totally agree, I would love for a true christmas song to be number 1, be it from a unknown band or x factor, not some soppy crap ballad or some angry slitty wrist shite.

So what? All that matters is, he won... And he can gloat about it just as Joe and definately Simon would have done. And it's not like it was a personaly attack at Joe... I mean, the group was together before he was announced the winner.

20m people watched the final, and his single sold ~450k copies... Goes to show you the quality of it is rubbish, again... Just like the past few years (baring Leona, the only talented one from the lot) and Killing isn't exactly what i would call a top quality song either, but id rather listen to it than yet another ballad from some pop star.

Plus, the RatM group has raised over 60k for charity. Can't argue with that!

Simon would have gloated yes, but then simon is an annoying twit. Joe I believe would have been a good man. You're right, I'm one of those people that watches X Factor, but I've never enjoyed any of the winners songs. They flat out suck. Unfortunately though you have to listen to BOTH X factor and RATM.

I'm glad RATM won (ignoring the bitter fans) because maybe next year someone will come out with a great christmas tune and campaign for it to get to #1, I'll be fully behind that.

It's also great all that money went to charity.



 

Taz! on 20 December 2009
highwaystar101 said:
Seece said:
Taz! said:
Joe was never going 2 be successful anyway, its so obvious!

He just signed a $5 mill deal with disney in America.

Sony have royally fucked him over already though. Simon Cowell got him a "£1,000,000" contract, but he is only allowed to keep £150,000, Sony have rather kindly spent £850,000 of his £1,000,000 on marketing. How nice of them to spend his cash. (Source)

 

Joe has already been fucked over by "the man".

Just noticed that Sony BMG 'own' both Joe and RaTM. Pretty sweet christmas for them



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Seece on 20 December 2009
highwaystar101 said:
Seece said:
Taz! said:
Joe was never going 2 be successful anyway, its so obvious!

He just signed a $5 mill deal with disney in America.

Sony have royally fucked him over already though. Simon Cowell got him a "£1,000,000" contract, but he is only allowed to keep £150,000, Sony have rather kindly spent £850,000 of his £1,000,000 on marketing. How nice of them to spend his cash. (Source)

 

Joe has already been fucked over by "the man".

It's a disgrace the way he/they treat the winners, they sign up for it though, I never would!



 

leo-j on 20 December 2009

@Carl

Goes to show you that piracy is a bitch =D



 

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Carl on 20 December 2009
Seece said:
Carl2291 said:
Seece said:
Carl2291 said:
Seece said:
Carl2291 said:
Seece said:
Carl2291 said:
Seece said:
Carl2291 said:
Joe + Xfactor.

The UK just gave you a combined "Fuck off!"

Love it!

Not really

Yeah really

Funny how all of a sudden Joe couldnt make it to the studio

He congratulated them on twitter, something RATM wouldn't have done.

again I repeat, not really, you need to get a perspective carl

They congratulated him on getting 2nd place, live on air.

You need to stop defending the loser

Yes of course they did, it's a digg obviously.

I'm not defending him, his song sucked just as much as RATM

It was good, that's what it was.

You've been very defensive of him since this entire thing came onto the forums...

But hey, the majority would rather have Rage at number 1.
Hopefully Xfactor gets screwed over again next year too, but that time... With an actual Christmas song

So it was a digg and you proved my point, thanks.

I was in camp RATM when this thing started, then I actually listened to the song and realised how hostile the people (fans) behind it were and became neutral.

in reality, the UK did not stick its fingers up at simon and joe (20 million people watched the final, 1/3 of this entire country.) less than 0.1% of people bought RATM, even then it was multiple purchases from people, I doubt many that bought joes single was because they wanted to beat RATM.

Last line, totally agree, I would love for a true christmas song to be number 1, be it from a unknown band or x factor, not some soppy crap ballad or some angry slitty wrist shite.

So what? All that matters is, he won... And he can gloat about it just as Joe and definately Simon would have done. And it's not like it was a personaly attack at Joe... I mean, the group was together before he was announced the winner.

20m people watched the final, and his single sold ~450k copies... Goes to show you the quality of it is rubbish, again... Just like the past few years (baring Leona, the only talented one from the lot) and Killing isn't exactly what i would call a top quality song either, but id rather listen to it than yet another ballad from some pop star.

Plus, the RatM group has raised over 60k for charity. Can't argue with that!

Simon would have gloated yes, but then simon is an annoying twit. Joe I believe would have been a good man. You're right, I'm one of those people that watches X Factor, but I've never enjoyed any of the winners songs. They flat out suck. Unfortunately though you have to listen to BOTH X factor and RATM.

I'm glad RATM won (ignoring the bitter fans) because maybe next year someone will come out with a great christmas tune and campaign for it to get to #1, I'll be fully behind that.

It's also great all that money went to charity.

Agreed!



                            

Seece on 20 December 2009
Carl2291 said:
Seece said:
Carl2291 said:
Seece said:
Carl2291 said:

It was good, that's what it was.

You've been very defensive of him since this entire thing came onto the forums...

But hey, the majority would rather have Rage at number 1.
Hopefully Xfactor gets screwed over again next year too, but that time... With an actual Christmas song

So it was a digg and you proved my point, thanks.

I was in camp RATM when this thing started, then I actually listened to the song and realised how hostile the people (fans) behind it were and became neutral.

in reality, the UK did not stick its fingers up at simon and joe (20 million people watched the final, 1/3 of this entire country.) less than 0.1% of people bought RATM, even then it was multiple purchases from people, I doubt many that bought joes single was because they wanted to beat RATM.

Last line, totally agree, I would love for a true christmas song to be number 1, be it from a unknown band or x factor, not some soppy crap ballad or some angry slitty wrist shite.

So what? All that matters is, he won... And he can gloat about it just as Joe and definately Simon would have done. And it's not like it was a personaly attack at Joe... I mean, the group was together before he was announced the winner.

20m people watched the final, and his single sold ~450k copies... Goes to show you the quality of it is rubbish, again... Just like the past few years (baring Leona, the only talented one from the lot) and Killing isn't exactly what i would call a top quality song either, but id rather listen to it than yet another ballad from some pop star.

Plus, the RatM group has raised over 60k for charity. Can't argue with that!

Simon would have gloated yes, but then simon is an annoying twit. Joe I believe would have been a good man. You're right, I'm one of those people that watches X Factor, but I've never enjoyed any of the winners songs. They flat out suck. Unfortunately though you have to listen to BOTH X factor and RATM.

I'm glad RATM won (ignoring the bitter fans) because maybe next year someone will come out with a great christmas tune and campaign for it to get to #1, I'll be fully behind that.

It's also great all that money went to charity.

Agreed!

and hell froze over



 

Taz! on 20 December 2009
kowenicki said:
Yep... there was a very good reason why Gerorge Michael wore those "FONY" headphones in the Fastlove video.

Is he with Sony aswell? What about Robbie and Micheal Buble? I think Sony's taking over the damn show.