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Ignoring all the crap off topic chat and moving back on topic, where in the article does the guy say they're out to win? Why in the hell do threads like these stay open when the title is blatantly misleading to get views and completely misquotes the person interviewed. To me its the standard exec talk saying they have strong plans and hope to catch up in the market, there is no claims of dominance at all.



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Like slowmo I want to actually talk about the content of the OP not drag up ancient history, AGAIN! Get over it, it was last century man!

Anyway I'll believe "we've got plenty up our sleeves yet to reveal" when I see it. Otherwise I'm going to assume this is PR hyperbole about some announcements scheduled for E3 that are going to fall pretty flat, as is the case with many announcements.

There better be some really good stuff for the Wand, otherwise that is going to fall flat and put rather a damper on what should be a great 2010 for PS3.



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sonys never disapointed anybody before there a good company that knows how to manage and deliver. look how well the ps1 and the ps2 did, true ps3 had a slow start! but that was because of the price but now they managed to get back on track and now their delivering the good exclusives and now MS going threw a dry spell with not very good games



cliffyboy said:
sonys never disapointed anybody before there a good company that knows how to manage and deliver....

Yes.... for sure... that is why they have record losses and introduced the PS3 with a 600 €/$ price tag due to poor production capabilities.

This is also why the PS3 production was also low thanks to low blu-led availabilties...

 

Nobody was dispointed by the early price either.

 

mmh. Good post.



 

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Motion control, the 'holy grail of gaming'? XD LMAO, that's hilarious, I remember too well when Nintendo unveiled their plans for Wii, and Sony dismissed motion controls as a gimmicky fad that would never catch on.

... What will all the PS3 fanboys do now, after making fun of the Wii and its control mechanisms for years, saying they don't want nor need them, and how superior traditional analog controls are... yet now Sony themselves are proclaiming motion controls to be the way to go, and indeed, going as far as saying they're gaming's 'holy grail'? XD

Also @ people going on about how Sony did or did not 'rip-off' many ideas from Nintendo, well, Nintendo were the ones who introduced the D-pad, the shoulder buttons, the control stick, the rumble pack, and now, motion controls. Guess what other hardware companies followed suit and integrated all of these ideas into their own subsequent controllers? That's right, all of them.

Fact is, Nintendo pioneers a lot of things that go on to become industry standards, whether some people like it or not. And yes, the PS1 controller did only receive a control stick after the N64 came out and proved with its 3D games how well it worked. And there's also a difference between 3D and 3D. Yes, the PS1 had 3D games before Nintendo came out with their N64. *However*, Nintendo were the first ones to do true open-world 360 degrees 3D gaming right with a little thing called Super Mario 64. Compare SM64 with the '3D' games on PS1 that came out before it, you'll see what I mean.



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Squilliam said:
steverhcp02 said:
Squilliam said:
numonex said:
Squilliam said:
Sony won't win anything, it will always be Wii and Nintendo. They are at best the also-ran in the console industry and at worst they are they guys bring up the rear.

Sony's video game market dominance is a  distant memory. PS3 is over 30 million behind the first place Wii and the gap is growing. PS4 may turn things around next generation.

They also get the dubious distinction of having the highest selling console which never made a dime. This is the GM vs Toyota effect again, if by some miracle they do manage to sell more PS3s than Wiis then people will still not respect their position and Nintendo will be the defacto industry #1 by profit alone.

That didnt stop people from respecting sony last gen when nintendo made more than the sony games division (didnt it?)It doesnt matter anyway since Sony has as much a shot at selling more than the wii as i do marrying scarlett johansen.

Last gen? "Sony's video game market dominance is a  distant memory" im talking about this gen.

How is the PS2 a "distant memory" when it is still selling?



Staude said:
Senlis said:
steverhcp02 said:
Senlis said:
There have been so many inconsistencies with motion controllers and peoples opinions of them. I just observe and choose. If Sony makes a really good motion controller and great games to go with them, I will buy it.

I think Sony has proven over time that they are great at ripping off of what Nintendo innovates.

Tis a bold statement with no glaring examples listed and none that i can think of off the top of my head besides the upcoming motion control, which i agree with your statement.

It was a joke based off of real events.

Sony took the idea of the CD based console from Nintendo.  Nintendo approached Sony with a partnership to develop something I believed was called the SNES-CD.  However, a disagreement between then caused Sony to develop the ideo on their own.

Sony's PS1 controller was remarkable similar to the SNES controller.  When Nintendo revolutionized controllers for 3d games using a joystick, Sony added that too.  Nintendo pioneered the 3D game front, where PS1 followed soon afterwards.

You could say that all of Sony's games are developed off of concepts and developments made during the success of the SNES.  If the SNES was not as successful (assuming Sega didn't manage to fill the void), the PS1/N64 generation would not have been as good as it was.

Really, it would have been difficult for Sony to do anything Nintendo hadn't done at the time, since they came afterwards.  They did kinda drop the ball with the joystick though.

wow you are wrong.

First, It was nintendo who bailed on sony. Ironically sony only made the playstation because they had been backstabbed.. To be dramatic, by nintendo.

 

Sony pioneered 3d gaming with the ps1. They approached developers who were mostly still developing 2d games, showed them what could be done with the ps1 hardware and how easy it was and made them switch over to 3d development. They did this using psygnosis.. the studio that made wipeout.

The ps1 controller i'll agree was similar, howver, it was far superior in every single possible way. Nintendo has yet to make a controller anywhere near as good as the first ps1 controller. That's saying something.

so.. well you're just misinformed really.

Thank you for saving me the trouble of writing this.



NoCtiS_NoX said:

Sony has some big tricks up its sleeves in the software department, both first and third party titles. We’ll have to wait for more details, but it sounds like 2010 is going to be a huge year for Sony as it builds off the momentum from the past few months.



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